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Hi all

Im new to this forum

I found this today and was wondering if anyone could help me id and age the coin. Also if it is rare
Thanks D

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Roman-Coin?

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I would say Vespasian. 70 AD. IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, laureate head right / COS ITER T-R POT, Pax seated left, holding branch and caduceus.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/...RIC_0029.jpg

The ancient experts will correct me.

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Not an ancient expert either, but VESPASIAN is entirely to the left of the bust here. I think this one comes closer (and the site gives a nice little round-up on the rest of the inscription)
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/...viations.htm

So, did find this on the ground, or on sale?
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Thanks Philadelphian, I knew I was wrong but trying to distinguish all the legend defeats me. Drum have a look through this page and see if you can match your obverse.

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/...asian/t.html

There are a lot of them.
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to the community.

I wish there were more of the legend visable because it could also be Titus, Vespasian's son. They look similar and there legends can be very close.

Was this a metal detector find?
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Almost certainly the 'old man' Vespasian. The condition of the coin is puzzling. Some areas (particulrly the face and part of the legend) seem unusually sharp. While this level of 'corrosion' makes the coin worth a minimal amount I almost wonder if maybe it wasn't a repro that someone was attempting to 'antique' so to speak only to have let things go a bit too far. It doesn't look like bronze disease and the 'holes' seem to have dirt inside. You really don't see many like this one ..... thank god !
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Its a nice big one and IDable with a full name on it. You should enter it into the smackdown!
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Your probably right FR, I just couldn't make out enough of the facial details and legend to say for sure.
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Hi all

Thanks for your posts :)

I found this coin with my metal detector, Its my first roman coin
I cant seem to find any similar coins on the internet.
does this mean its rare?
Its the oldest coin I've found, The earliest coin I found to date is a George 3rd half penny

Thanks again D
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I am new to this forum
One of the posts by benbyfield said You should enter it into the smackdown
Whats Smackdown?
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Rarity is difficult to say. You wont find another one though - theres just so many varieties out there, the chance of finding the exact one twice is pretty small unless you go through a huge number of coins.

for quite a while we've had little competitions in this forum - theres a subject and people post coins relating to the subject. You can enter any coin and theres no pre-requisites for entry! I havent got many really nice coins and if you look back at early Smackdowns you'll see me posting all sorts of crud! This weeks topic is your favourite ancient coin - you only have 1, so it shouldnt be difficult to pick!

The competitions arent about winning - more taking part. The idea is to have a single topic with a huge range of coins and designs - its a ploy to get people to post coins we dont usually see!

Heres this week's:
https://goccf.com/t/146941

Post an image, describe the coin and, because you're new to ancients, you'll get 3 bonus points right off the bat.
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The coin itself is not what you would call 'common'. It is a sestertius of the Emperor Vespasian with what appears to be the Goddess Salus seated (security) on the reverse (RIC 752). Unfortunately the ground where you found it must have been corrosive because it is literally eaten away by something. The metal is Orichalcum (brass) which is usually pretty tough stuff to dissolve like this. The end result is it is worth something but not enough to worry too much about. Having found it it would be worth more to you than anyone else.
A 'smackdown' is what coin collectors do when they have too much time on their hands. Ben is the 'host' of the moment and we are putting up pictures of our 'favorite' ancient coins in our collections. As this seems to be your first one it maybe premature to call it your favorite one just yet. Keep looking and hunting them down. And be forwarned do not attempt to clean anything with other than water and toothbrush until you have sought out 'expert' opinion about what is necessary to achieve the desired results ! Many an ancient coin have been degraded by hasty decisions.
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