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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Canada
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Seller feedback making purchases from ebay seller, coins.hk, is a good clue... Not to mention all the other markers... (which I'll step aside and let the others study the coin) "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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United Kingdom
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Looks like a silver wash over brass
yours
michael
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 the foreign metal showing on the rim of the obverse is definitely weird. Love the amazing use of the 80 characters ebay gives you for a title. Also the 2 and 5 in the 25 Cents: The bottom line of the 2 seems too short, and the blob on the bottom tail of the 5 curls in too much and is much too close to the part above it. |
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Canada
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I don't see anything.  Clueless, and even looking in the book , I see maybe a fat 0 in the 1870 If this is counterfeit, I would be sucked in. Edited by Ukee
04/11/2013 10:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Good eye Ukee,that's one of the signs that it's a fake.No genuine 1870 has a 0 like that.
The odd appearance of the metal should make you suspicious,but it doesn't confirm a counterfeit.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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It is an obverse 2, and has a large 0 in the date. That makes it one of the rarest obverse types of the Vicky series. I believe one similar to it sold a few years ago for a few thousand dollars in a auction. Was that one real? I don't know!
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Yes Zonad,that's the most obvious sign that it's fake.
I won't believe the 1870 OBV2 exists in a circulation strike until I see one.
I don't believe in 1871H OBV1 either,all that I have seen so far have been misattributed.
Just because a coin has been certified by ICCS and is listed in Charlton's and Trends doesn't mean it actually exists.Recall the 1872H OBV1
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
04/11/2013 10:38 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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RE: Quote:
It is an obverse 2 Zonad... I've never known you to make an erroneous observation, but I guess there's always a first time... :) This coin is clearly an obverse 1... most obvious marker is the right ribbon end detail which shows "V" is off centre, to the right. DBM - I've seen a couple 1871H OBV1 in hand that were not misattributed... cameron93 cameron93 |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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cameron 93
I am never wrong in my obverse identification.
The ribbon end as a marker is dead.
It is not reliable,and this is how 1871H coins ended up misattributed in ICCS holders.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I think that it looks brassy as well.
I can't figure out why a faker should NOT make these in good silver.
Even if pure, the silver cost would only be about six bucks to the faker.
The fields around the lettering look a bit rough in parts.
Looks like a pit near the 'A' in 'VICTORIA', but from the picture, that could just be a black spot.
Some of the detail may be a bit vague, but it ain't too bad for a fake.
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Can't see the edge milling,
can't do a comparative ring tone test,
can't weigh it.
I am in no way familiar with this series,
you fellas are way ahead of me, when it comes to die varieties, and fakes which may vary therefrom,
so I only have the pictures and a 'gut' feeling to go on.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thought I was wrong once,turned out I was mistaken.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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the seller seems to have bought a bunch from all 4 major manufacturers of this type of stuff bet this coin has been in his/her family for 2 generations and safely stored in his grand mothers hope chest.........
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Ignore all the Charlton mumbo-jumbo when trying to identify obverses of silver Victoria coins. Charlton's is limited by intelectual propery and copyright issues. For 25cent OBV1 you need only these two markers.  I in GRATIA points between denticles. There is a prominent bump in the front of the top jewel in the tiara. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
04/12/2013 10:32 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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"the seller seems to have bought a bunch from all 4 major manufacturers of this type of stuff bet this coin has been in his/her family for 2 generations and safely stored in his grand mothers hope chest........."
I bid on item and now have a phone number and name and address of the seller for the authorities if you want?
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