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Help To Identify This Unknown Coin

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Another one of my finds while searching through tokens. It measures 20.90mm at the widest spot and is almost 5mm thick. Composition is unknown but it feels heavy for it's size and is not soft like lead or pewter.There is a E barely visible to the left of the bee.


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I see a lot of incrustation on the back but it looks likes an early "bee" drachm from Ephesus, in asia minor (modern Turkey) probably 5-4th century BC. These coins are both iconic and widely faked. The surface looks a bit porous others I am sure will further comment on authenticity. I am not 100% convinced it is real.
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It's definitely a Greek coin. Probably from Ephesos, Ionia. I can't vouch for it's authenticity. It would be good to get a weight in grammes as well.
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Damn, Noob, I was typing my post out at the same time. lol
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I own an Ionian bee like this. The design looks...well, not as enhanced as an ancient one usually looks.

It also has a curious incuse square on the back that doesn't look very convincing - I think I also spy a seam. Incuse squares can look like this but I dont think I've ever seen a theta in one.

Turn the coin in your hand, looking at the rim. Is there a seam? This would help vouych for its authenticity.
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There is a seam or what I would call a crease along about one quarter of the edge. My impression when I look at it is that it looks like it was cut with a pair of shears. It may be a partial seam or some other defect.
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Well, thats usually an indicator of fakery. The fabric and the fuzzy design makes me think its a modern tourist replica. We see way too many of these around - many a dissapointed person

Post a picture of the edge anyway - it would be interesting. Who knows, I migth be wrong.
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