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This has bothered me for a bit. I was looking at a graded GSA Morgan. The coin was graded by NGC as MS details improperly cleaned....how does that work? I mean weren't these coins basically sitting in bags since they were minted, how in the heck could that be improperly cleaned. Struck me as a bit odd, I asked the dealer selling the coin and he had the same questions as I did. Upon examining I could not determine a cleaning, no hairlines or anything....maybe it got rained on, haha. Any thoughts on how this could happen?
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Yeah, that's a  A guess would be that maybe something got spilled on a bag of Morgans, and an employee had to do something to the coins to make them salable. Or maybe it toned black and got overdipped? |
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And to add to this, I was going through my GSA stuff....I have a 22 Peace dollar in a soft shell GSA holder, the soft shell was in a baggy and I noticed it had been graded "MS" and had a serial number but no grading company. The serial looked like NGC....I looked it up, MS details obverse improperly cleaned. This one really made me scratch my head. I'll take a couple pictures of this coin. I guess my logic is getting the better on me with this....If it is indeed MS, then it's been sitting in a bag since the early 70's, then stuck in a soft bag, then sold. |
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Here's a GSA out of my collection labeled MS details obverse improperly cleaned.....opinions on this? [URL="http://s160.photobucket.com/user/darth_nagul/media/Peace%20dollars/1922%20Peace%20GSA%20pd%2045%2004%202013/1922PeaceGSAOBV_zps8553d2f2.jpg.html]  [/URL] [URL="http://s160.photobucket.com/user/darth_nagul/media/Peace%20dollars/1922%20Peace%20GSA%20pd%2045%2004%202013/1922PeaceGSARev_zps6a935231.jpg.html]  [/URL] [URL="http://s160.photobucket.com/user/darth_nagul/media/Peace%20dollars/1922%20Peace%20GSA%20pd%2045%2004%202013/1922PeaceGSAPack_zpsa6466b3a.jpg.html]  [/URL] |
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Yeah, well, I'm still Your images are plenty good enough for obvious hairlines or overdipping to be visible. The only places I see that are worth magnified attention are maybe between the "ER," and the patch in the field running from the mouth towards the 9, through "GOD." That latter seems like a function of lighting, but the hazy stuff around IN could have caused them to conclude it was from a recovery after chemical cleaning. |
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It is possible some of the GSA hoard were cleaned prior to being packaged and sold to the public after all it was just old silver dollars to them and what did they care if a few had to be wiped off a little first. Ed ANA LM-3175 |
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One, not all of the GSA coins were Unc so it was possible for a lightly circulated coin to be in one of these holders (And in fact ALL of the Peace dollars were put in the soft pack holders.) Two, the coins have been bodybagged by NGC. Ignore the MS, NGC simply uses this intenally to indicate that the coin is a business strike and not a proof strike. No matter how low the grade of the coin, if it is a business strike and in a bodybag it will be labeled as MS. |
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Posted 04/28/2013 3:03 pm
