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Star Dates On Spanish Pesetas

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Most spanish peseta coins between 1945 and 1985 have a peculiar date indication. All coins have the date of first mintage. The real year of mintage is hidden in a star and can only be viewed with a looking glass (unless your eye sight is exceptional). Often the star is at the reverse while the large date stamp is at the obverse.

You find an example for a 50 centimos coin first minted in 1949 with the 'star date' 56 on top of following thread.
https://goccf.com/t/139042

Some more star dates:
50 Ptas 1980 - Soccer world championship 82.

Reverse: star date 82
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Obverse: date 1980
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2.50 Pesetas 1953 reverse: Star date 1954 with 19 below and 54 above the value indication.

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25 Pesetas 1957 reverse: Star date 66

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Dictators (dictatures) have a tendency of coining official lies: Franco coined 'Una grande libre'. Una (United) by force it was; 'Great' only for the Franquistas and 'free' for none.

It 's a prerogative for Kings and Queens claiming their rule 'by the grace of God', and even then the latin 'Dei Gratia' most often is abbreviated to DG.
Franco however had the audacity to claim the same: "Caudillo de España por la G. de Dios."

For a picture see: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pho...gne/g191.jpg
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I felt like quite the sleuth when I discovered this. What intrigues me is, there are sellers w/thousands of sales
not indicating the star dates.
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And some star dates are worth $$$

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All coins have the date of first mintage.

Actually, the "die-date" is either the date when the design was approved, or the date the master die was made. There are some die-dates which do not have a corresponding star-date. For example, the 50 centimo coins die-dated 1949: the earliest star-date is 51.

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It 's a prerogative for Kings and Queens claiming their rule 'by the grace of God', and even then the latin 'Dei Gratia' most often is abbreviated to DG.
Franco however had the audacity to claim the same: "Caudillo de España por la G. de Dios."

Franco inserted himself into pseudo-royalty by declaring Spain a Monarchy in 1947 and becoming Regent. There were several rival claimants to the Spanish throne, however, and Franco kept their supporters all in line by formally backing none of them. It wasn't until 1969 that he finally declared which claimant to the throne he was acting as Regent for. His choice of Juan Carlos I surprised and disappointed most of the monarchists within the Falange.
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Actually, the "die-date" is either the date when the design was approved, or the date the master die was made. There are some die-dates which do not have a corresponding star-date. For example, the 50 centimo coins die-dated 1949: the earliest star-date is 51.


Right, the 2.50 peseta coin shown is another example. The 1954 star date was the first mintage year for this coin dated 1953.
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This system of star date begun at 1868 under queen Elizabeth II.
THe important for a coin is not the year of issue. What really important is the law that gave validity to a piece of metal as money (Currency ?), so it has preeminence the date of law.
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