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Worst Misleading Ebay Ad? I Feel Bad For The Bidders

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 Posted 05/03/2013  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the seller's wording is acceptable. No claims of variety/value are made.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerseyben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A liar and a cheat?

Worst misleading ad on ebay?

You guys are unbelievable...
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 Posted 05/03/2013  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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DrDon, most dealers are ignorant about varieties. Does your statement mean you are the type of person that will walk up to a dealer at a show and tell them that the 1988 Lincoln Cent they have in their bargain bin for 50 cents is actually a RDV-006 worth about $50? Or are you like us in the real world and would snatch that baby up thinking you made the score of the century? How is that any different than this listing? The responsibility of education in any transaction always falls on the buyer, because it is their money being spent.

The simple answer is yes I'd tell them.I've told the guys at work I'll go through their pennies for them and split anything I find 50/50.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is nothing more than Die Deterioration.


http://doubleddie.com/144843.html



Regardless of what the seller states this is or is not,
it's still the buyers responsibility to know what you are going to purchase prior to bidding!

Do your homework!!

"CAVEAT EMPTOR" at all times.


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 Posted 05/08/2013  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A little poking around and found that there is a fellow CCF member selling these in this manner as well. Coincidentally, or not, they are from New Jersey as well. So does this seller know what they are selling? YES. Is that wrong? YES.
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 Posted 05/08/2013  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BigAppleBucky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
seal006
Posted 05/03/2013 04:34 am


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DrDon, most dealers are ignorant about varieties. Does your statement mean you are the type of person that will walk up to a dealer at a show and tell them that the 1988 Lincoln Cent they have in their bargain bin for 50 cents is actually a RDV-006 worth about $50? . . .
My local coin dealer was selling 2012 silver proof sets for $75 a few weeks ago when they were going for $120 on ebay. Instead of snatching up all he had I told him he needed to reprice. Sure, it might have cost me something, but I've earned some future good will.
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 Posted 05/08/2013  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL, do you guys even understand what "Cherrypicker" means in regards to the Cherrypicker's Guide?
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 Posted 05/08/2013  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinaki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My local coin dealer was selling 2012 silver proof sets for $75 a few weeks ago when they were going for $120 on ebay. Instead of snatching up all he had I told him he needed to reprice. Sure, it might have cost me something, but I've earned some future good will.
Well, why stop there? You should've snatched all his supply at $75 each, then turn around and sell them on ebay for $120 each, and then return the $45 profit back to your local coin dealer!
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05/08/2013 10:54 pm
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 Posted 05/09/2013  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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LOL, do you guys even understand what "Cherrypicker" means in regards to the Cherrypicker's Guide?


I am not saying it's wrong to take advantage of a bargain, I just have a different way of doing things. Then again I have not been to a coin show in 40 years.
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 Posted 05/09/2013  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So it's OK too take advantage of the less educated.Is that what I'm hearing in this thread.That it's OK.Hope I never have to do business with any of you.A lot of buyers rely on the seller to be honest
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05/09/2013 9:00 pm
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 Posted 05/10/2013  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinhunter9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have seen these 2013-D 'error' coins and wonder why they sell for so much
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 Posted 05/10/2013  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sudz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me, communication is the key. If the coin is misrepresented either way (Sellers benefit/ Buyers benefit) I would tell the seller. There are 4 probable scenarios that would ensue.

If this misrepresentation benefits the seller, and the seller (after being told the truth):

- is contrite and makes it right, all is well, or

- refuses to make it right, then at this point they are most certainly crooked and I would announce it to all who would listen


If this misrepresentation benefits the buyer, and the seller (after being told the truth):

- Adjusts the price to make it right (and hopefully thanks me), then I have helped them out or,

- Sells it to me anyway, then they are either very kind, very stubborn, or shouldn't be in retail.

Either way it works out I have done what I consider to be morally ethical and can walk away from the situation with a clean conscience (and maybe a bargain).

But that's just me...
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05/10/2013 3:38 pm
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So it's OK too take advantage of the less educated.

Since when is a professional coin dealer ever considered to be the "less educated" person in a transaction?

Regarding the question of the original auction, the seller started the listing off at 1 cent with $1.95 shipping. How is it the fault of a seller if multiple bidders run up the final price of an auction? Short of shill bidding, the seller has virtually no control over the final auction price. The auction was listed in the the regular Lincoln section, not under Errors. Yes, the usage of stock photos was a no-no but the wording of the auction is not egregious at all unlike many other auctions purporting to sell errors.

Even several forum members here have has success selling machine doubled coins(properly listed as Machine Doubling and not doubled dies or any other type of error) for what I would consider ridiculous money, how can those sellers possibly be at fault and when does it become the responsibility of the buyer to do a minimal amount of research on what they are buying?
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05/10/2013 4:33 pm
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 Posted 05/10/2013  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
biokemist6:
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Regarding the question of the original auction


Please note.


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jasper62:I told him 2 days ago what it was and he chose to ignore me with no reply


The seller is a con man preying upon the uninformed buyer.The buyer is fullish paying that much without knowing what he is getting for his money.
Selling Machine Doubling or even Die Deterioration properly noted is not different. In these cases the buyer has some info to go on if they choose to do the research. In this case all they have is a photo with arrows on it.
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 Posted 05/10/2013  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsbruton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The sad part is the guy who won it will probably turn around and make a profit on it.
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