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I do not feel bad for the bidders. The internet has made it so people can access info about anything and everything. If you are ignorant enough to through good money at a bad choice, then so be it. I used to be one that would report listings like this, but I no longer do. There is no reason anyone with internet access should be bidding on this item, and they cannot bid on it without internet access. So they are getting what they deserve. Do you go buy a car without researching first? Why is this any different?
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I you bought a car and a guy told you it was never in a wreck and it was...and the seller misled you would you be upset? What if someone is buying it as a gift for a coin collector? Its pretty crappy...
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There was nothing in the listing that said it was a doubled die. In fact it does not say anything as to what it is. The only description is that it is 2013 D cents, which they are. It would be a totally different story if he laid claim to them being some rare, expensive coins. None of that is in the listing. Your upset because you have knowledge that they are nothing more than normal cents with a value of what is written on the back of each coin. I am saying that any and all of those that bid on the coin could have that exact same knowledge with a couple of clicks of a their mouse and 10 minutes of reading.
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I suppose you are right.....its because I know the buyer paid over $70.00 for the lot and it getting 25 cents.

So are you saying its morally okay? Or should I say its okay for the seller to do this? Heck..I might just start selling everything from Die Deterioration to PMD from coin rollers...
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100% deceitful. He's using the same image in all the listings.
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another case of Caveat emptor !!
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I would say using the same image in every listing is the only thing wrong with these items/selling techniques. The seller put the items up, starting at 99 cents and the crazy bidders took over. Unless the seller knows that these are just common Die Deterioration, which he says he doesn't, then he just got lucky with all of these listings.
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First time I see of this.
Is it Die Deterioration?
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I sell machine doubled coins. In all of my listings for them I state, "NOTE: THIS IS NOT A DOUBLED DIE." This seller does not say what it is. As stated above, the only violation is using the same photo over and over. People buy chips and cracks as well. The deterioration on this coin is no different than chips or cracks IMHO.
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So are you saying its morally okay? Or should I say its okay for the seller to do this?

If he actually doesn't know what it is or what caused it then yes it is moral and it is OK because he is not misrepresenting it in any way. He doesn't say what it is, he doesn't say what it could be, he doesn't say how it was caused, he doesn't even call it an error. It is more of a "here it is what will you give me for it" approach and someone else who doesn't know what it is throws big money at it. Sorry that is the buyers fault not the sellers.
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I'm sure the seller knows what it actually is.
He uses the question mark to feign ignorance.
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Is he being Moral? NO Ethical? NO In my book he's a Liar and a cheat I told him 2 days ago what it was and he chose to ignore me with no reply.He most definitely is implying it's an error and Yes! He knows exactly what it is but continues to sell it.How many young collectors will get burned by this seller.Sellers like this really hurt the hobby and just irritate me to no end.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-D-Linc...em232a7f00e2
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I've posted dozens of coins at $1.00 that I know are legit varieties with no response.This guy is selling Die Deterioration,and he knows it. This ticks me off.I don't mind a no sale but to see buyers bidding on these gets me.I wish there was a way to inform the bidders in cases like this. Honest sellers will respond correctly and pull their ad, or at least reword it, but this guy just ignores the truth.
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My momma always used to say, "Stupid people need to be punished".


And I'm not talking about the seller.
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I've posted dozens of coins at $1.00 that I know are legit varieties with no response.This guy is selling Die Deterioration,and he knows it. This ticks me off.I don't mind a no sale but to see buyers bidding on these gets me.I wish there was a way to inform the bidders in cases like this. Honest sellers will respond correctly and pull their ad, or at least reword it, but this guy just ignores the truth.


DrDon, most dealers are ignorant about varieties. Does your statement mean you are the type of person that will walk up to a dealer at a show and tell them that the 1988 Lincoln Cent they have in their bargain bin for 50 cents is actually a RDV-006 worth about $50? Or are you like us in the real world and would snatch that baby up thinking you made the score of the century? How is that any different than this listing? The responsibility of education in any transaction always falls on the buyer, because it is their money being spent.
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