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I have a 1943 D/S steel Wheat penny. I have been unable to find another coin like this throughout all of my research. I did, however, take it to my local coin dealer to have it checked by another eye. He saw the same thing I did, but he was taken back by it. Could someone please advise me in the best route to take to get it certified?
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I am simply an amateur coin collector that sincerely enjoys the "habit"! If any guidance could be given, it would truly and sincerely be appreciated.

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PCGS does show a 1943 D/D variety in their price guide, but not a 1943 D/S. Interesting
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Getting it certified will cost you quite a bit of money for something that may not be what you think it is. 1943 cents were some of the most collected of all of the Lincoln Cent series. I find it very unlikely that a significant variety such as a D/S could exist without ever being discovered. Providing photos, quality photos of the whole coin, the date and mint mark together, and a nice closeup of the mint mark alone could get you an answer without costing you a "cent". 99.999% of all dealers know nothing about varieties at all beyond what a 1955 doubled die #1 looks like. There are many people on this forum like Coop, Maineman, myself, and others that have dedicated ourselves to the education of others in the variety world of Lincoln cents. Our opinions are 100% FREE.
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. 99.999% of all dealers know nothing about varieties at all beyond what a 1955 doubled die #1 looks like.


I wonder what percent could spot a fake '55?
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I wonder what percent could spot a fake '55?


Probably less than 1%. Numismatics has so many different avenues to be able to master all of them. This is why I chose to dedicate myself to Lincoln Cent varieties. I even changed my website to exclusively Lincoln Cents. Even by narrowing it down to just that, and the years I have been doing it, there is still a ton I need to learn.
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I just added the best picture I could get. All I was able to do was download a magnifier on my iPhone to get the magnification needed. Is this a better aid to better explain what exactly I have?
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Does anyone believe I am really on to something? Did I really "find" something?

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Your picture is not good enough to tell. The image is dark, and the orientation of the photo is not straight. Other members have had luck using loupes in front of the lens on a cell phone for better photos. Plus you should be able to adjust the size of your photo to a larger size on the settings of your phone. When I tried to enlarge your photo it got very pixelated.
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I did the best I could to provide the best pictures. I don't know if they are any better or not.
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I'm not real sure, but maybe you can better zoom on those. I am simply an amateur, so please let me know if I can go purchase something to better assist a decision.
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That is not much better, but I think what you are seeing is just coincidental circulation wear.
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I look at it this way there is always a chance he could have found something good you never know. Get a loupe set it in front of the camera lens and adjust the focus by getting closer or further from the coin and be in a well lighted area. Before I got my usb scope I used my droid camera for all my coin pics.
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I look at it this way there is always a chance he could have found something good you never know.


As I stated, the steel cents are some of the most collected cents in the entire series. A significant find such as an over mint mark would have surfaced before in the 70 years since its release. Something that significant would not go unnoticed. It is not like an error, which are one of a kind. There are literally 1000's of the same variety each year.
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I bought a microscope attachment to my iPhone from Buy.com for dirt cheap. I was shocked as to how good it was for the money ( neighborhood of $6.00). It screws onto a back cover right over the lens. The only negative is that it needs to be laid on the proper height book or similar. It even has LED and UV(?) built in. Once it is attached and focused, you still can enlarge the picture just by "spreading" the picture with 2 fingers. Hope this makes sense.
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