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PCGS Regrading An NGC Slab

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 Posted 05/17/2013  10:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add fasttalker27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have several coins in my collection that are graded by PCGS and only a few by NGC. I would like to have the continuity of a couple of the collections by having them all PCGS.
Has anyone had any experience with having one TPG regrade another TPG slab? Can I expect the same grade if I go from NGC to PCGS?
I know this may sound a little OCD (ok, maybe a lot) but I want all of certain series in one type of slab for the binder.
Any help would be appreciated....and yes, I understand the submission costs involved! not too worried about that right now.
Thanks guys.
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05/17/2013 10:46 am
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 Posted 05/17/2013  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly you can not expect anything... There's no guarantee that your NGC coins will cross to the same grade at PCGS... I believe you can send a bunch of crossovers with a minimum grade specified and they won't break it out or cross it if it doesn't "make the grade"... But unless a certian number make the minimum grade you will still be charged a set amount even if they leave it in the NGC slab.... So basically make sure you think they will cross. PCGS is known for being a bit more strict than NGC, so... It's your call... A complete gamble..

I've never submited for a cross grade but a lot of other members have and I'm sure they will be along soon and will be able to offer better insight..
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 Posted 05/17/2013  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fasttalker27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nathan. Is PCGS considered the most stringent of all the TPG's?
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 Posted 05/17/2013  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I know yes, they are the most strict while grading US coins.

People tend to rate the third party graders in order of highest premium for the slab as PCGS, NGC and finally ANACS... Which would indicate to me that PCGS is the strictest if they bring the highest premium. More so because they have lower populations of the given grades. Which again would indicate the strictest grading.

Also you have to remember that all of the top 3 third party graders are wrong at times... I have coins in all three company's slabs, and I have some that I believe are both under and overgraded... Always remember buy the coin and not the slab. Grading is soooo subjective that honestly (just for the sake of mentioning) you could crack out all of your slabbed PCGS coins and resubmit them to PCGS and there's still no guarantee they will grade the same, actually theres probably a pretty good chance they could come back different.. some could come back lower or higher.... Or the same... All subjective. It depends on who's grading them, If they got cut off in traffic on the way to work, fighting with the wife, just won the lotto, the rarity of the coin (I believe they are less strict on certian coins/dates/mints) etc...

Personally I prefer to cherrypick raw examples... (But I will buy all three third party graded slabbed coins if I like the toning, designation etc) but for raw coins I buy empty slabs identical to the PCGS slabs and label them myself (never for resale). But my albums are a mix of all three top TPG'ers as well as my own slabs.. Would I like them all the same.. I guess that would be cool, and look good, but it's the coin in the slab I look at, not the label so I could care less if all the slabs match.. I have super OCD also, lol, but not towards my slabs.. More so towards my coins..

Unless your collecting "slabs" try to remember to buy the coin and not the slab, that's probably one of, if not THE most important sayings in coin collecting... Wether PCGS, NGC, ANACS or RAW always buy the coin that stands out to you, your personal tastes, and grade it yourself..

Cross grading is fine, I just wouldn't expect them to all cross the same.. But this is likewise if you were to cross submit to any of the top 3 TPG'ers... There's no guarantee that if you sent all your PCGS slabs to NGC they would cross the same either... So on so forth.. No guarantee whatsoever. But if you get pretty good at grading yourself you can probably pick coins you think would "make the grade"...
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 Posted 05/17/2013  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ft27...

Check out this forum link... https://goccf.com/t/57144

You can do a search for TPG and many more discussions will come up about the graders
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"but for raw coins I buy empty slabs identical to the PCGS slabs and label them myself (never for resale)"

I like this idea. Where do you buy the slabs? What kind are they?

I also like your thought process. I too buy only the coin and really don't care much about the grade per se.

Thanks for you input and guidance.

LMD
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 Posted 05/17/2013  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The cross over rate into PCGS slabs is about 40 percent. If its a common coin you probably have a better chance as they will be stricter for coins that are just on other side of a huge jump or are rare.

The only think you cant do is try and cross 70s unless youre willing to have it regrade a 69
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Here's some holders for "roll your own" slabs:
https://www.amosadvantage.com/scott...no=&Tab=coin

Here's more. Note the size differences (small ANACS size vs PCGS size)

http://www.amosadvantage.com/scottonline/find.asp?
ANA #R3154474
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Thanks basebal. Most of mine are fairly common but some are higher grade and rare. Fortunately, most all of them are already PCGS. I only have one or two that I would consider moving from NGC to PCGS.
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