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1964 Quarter - Die Crack / Cud?

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 Posted 05/17/2013  1:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add noviscoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please tell me what this is - does it add any value?
1964-Quarter---Die-Crack-/-Cud?

1964-Quarter---Die-Crack-/-Cud?

1964-Quarter---Die-Crack-/-Cud?

1964-Quarter---Die-Crack-/-Cud?
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05/17/2013 2:05 pm
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Your pictures are kind of fuzzy so it is hard to tell. It does look interesting though. Is it raised? Are you sure it is not a bad hit from another coins rim?
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Sorry for the bad pics - best my equip can do - Yes, it is very much raised - Kind of looks like a extra piece of silver
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It could be a die gouge but I could not say without any better photos. I use a nikon coolpix 2100 I bought off of ebay for $20. The rechargable batteries and memory card are a little more money like $20 more total but it is well worth the money. It takes really good full coin photos and does ok with closeups.

Did you resize your pictures after cropping? Sometimes that makes them look more pixelly.
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That would be an interior die break, it might garner a small premium but an error collector would most likely be seeking an example with a much larger break. It is worth noting though that interior breaks are fairly uncommon.
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That is awesome info. I have never heard of the term interior die break before. I was kind of wondering if it was a break but I was going to say it needed a die crack leading to it for that to happen. I wonder how these kinds of breaks occur?
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Granted, the pictures are not the best but I base my findings on the two distinct points at either end of the "worm" seen best in the second picture. Those points should each have a die crack trailing away from the main break. I use the term "interior" to separate it from the other type of die break- the "exterior break" more commonly known as a Cud.

Die cracks will usually form at inherent points of weakness on a die, i.e. an area of the design subject to repeatable cracks across multiple dies. For Washington quarters, those areas would typically be the base of the bust and along the leading edges of the eagle wings. An interior break starts as a thin crack and then expands in width. Since interior breaks are so uncommon, I have to assume that it needs more than just regular wear and tear on a die to develop. It could be caused by a flaw in the die steel or an improper annealing of the die during the hubbing process.
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Wow! Thank you for all the info - You guys/gals? are great and a true asset to a 'novis' like me. If anyone else would like to opine., please do. But I have to ask., 'Just how 'uncommon'?
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