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1985-D Roosevelt Dime Huge Cud Reverse

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My father found this coin years ago. It has what looks like a huge Cud on the reverse. I was told on another forum that the coin had something added to it and that there was no way this coin could be an error and that I should not send it in for grading. If you do a google search you can probably find the thread. I still believe it is real and have had it in a flip put away ever since then. Since I found this site I can tell there are many more active users here so I thought I would see what you all think. The coin weight is a 2.7 grams on my cheap scales from ebay and a normal coin weighs 2.4 grams on the scale. The obverse has a small Cud on the cheek but there are some scratches in between the Cud and the ear.

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 Posted 05/18/2013  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is solder on the reverse. If it were a real error, the obverse would be weak.
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I have seen other Cuds that do not cause the indentions on the opposite side. I will admit I have never seen any Cuds this large or that have sunken in spots on the Cud. It it were solder I should be able to use my soldering iron and touch the coin to melt the solder. If it does not melt then Should I send it in to PCGS for grading?
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coop is correct, the extra weight is from the solder.
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I just used my soldering iron on it and it is not solder. I heated some solder before testing to make sure it was hot enough to melt solder.

My soldering iron will melt solder to a chassis of a tube radio but would not melt the metal on the coin.
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It it were solder I should be able to use my soldering iron and touch the coin to melt the solder.

Only if it is a lead or tin based solder. (melt around 400 degrees F) If it is a silver solder then you have to get temperatures over 1100 degrees or more. Something your typical soldering iron won't get close to.
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A blob of molten metal was dripped onto the reverse face. It's not an error.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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I have seen other Cuds that do not cause the indentions on the opposite side.


From what I have read, there has to be some weakness on the opposite side since the side of the die the Cud is on is broken off. Therefore when striking, the opposite side has nothing to squeeze against. Also it shouldn't be heavier. The planchets are pre-punched. Also, Mike Diamond knows what he is talking about. PMD for sure.
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OK, Thanks for the help. I will destroy the coin so no one else ends up with it.

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You could always keep it as a conversation piece or to educate others.
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I will hold onto it until I can show it to someone in person. I still think it should be sent in for grading.
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I still think it should be sent in for grading



its your dime. (pun intened)
The best in the business has given you his opinion No need to have any one else look at it.
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If Mike Diamond says it's an error then that's what you have. He wrote the book on errors,Literally.Two of the best variety and error specialist in the business "Mr Diamond & coop" have weighed in on your coin and it has been deemed PMD
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Totally understood.
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