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2 P Coin Year 1792 Price ?

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 Posted 05/20/2013  9:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Cedr666 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone I actually found a old 2 p coin from 1792 and I cant find the same one on the internet is a bronze 2 p coin , does anyone could help me to price up this coin and how rare is this coin ? Thanks
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 Posted 05/20/2013  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anaximander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you mean the 1797 "cartwheel" 2d coin. If what you have is a big lump of copper 2 ounces in weight, Britannia on one side and George III on the other, then that is what you have.

Value depends on the condition. Coin yearbook gives £800 in uncirculated, down to £25 in fine. It is not particularly rare in lower grades.

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 Posted 05/20/2013  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cedr666 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it does say 1792 on the coin is there any mail address where I could send you a picture from my phone ? Thanks
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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only 2 pence coins struck in 1792 were tiny silver halfgroats, primarily used as Maundy money. They are about 14mm diameter and look like this.

If it's a bronze coin about the same size as a modern British 2p, then it's actually a halfpenny. There weren't any official halfpennies struck in 1792, but there were plenty of tokens, like this.

You can send pictures to my username (Sap) at coincommumity.com if you like.
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 Posted 05/21/2013  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cedr666 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found a picture with the same one http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/DH....042.004.jpg
Its this one I've got do you know more about this one ? Thanks so much for your help
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Heres a description of it:
Camac Kyan and Camac (Dublin) copper Conder halfpenny token dated 1792.
Obverse: Hibernia seated to the left with her right hand on her knee and the left supporting a seven-stringed harp: "INCORPORATED BY ACT OF PARLIAMENT 1792".
Reverse: Cypher of "H M Co", (Hibernian Mine Company), "CAMAC KYAN AND CAMAC HALFPENNY"
Edge inscription: "PAYABLE IN DUBLIN OR AT BALLYMURTAGH".
Issued by The Hibernian Mine Company. which was started in 1790 and incorporated by Act of Parliament in 1792. The partners at the time of the token's issue were Turner Camac, John Howard Kyan and John Camac.

Cool! You might have the very rare variation where Halfpenny is misspelt. Look around the edge and see how the edge inscription survived.
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Ah yes. It's an Irish "mine token". There are, almost literally, hundreds of varieties of this token - 185 varieties just with the "1792" date. I don't have a book that lists out the differences between each and every variety, but the book I have does divide the varieties into classes, depending on the number of strings that are visible on the harp - this number can vary between 5 and 14.

Most of the variations seem to be in the edge inscription. The edge quoted by BenByfield above is the most common one; if your token says anything else on the edge then it might be a scarcer variety.

As for value, my book lists the commonest types at £8 in Fine, with scarcer types from £15 to £30 in the same condition, and higher prices for better condition coins; we'd need to see pics of your actual coin to judge its condition.
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