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Opinions Needed - Ram + Perth Mint Silver Coin Retail Prices

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 Posted 06/01/2013  06:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrcruise to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was after coin community opinions and thoughts on the pricing policies/mechanisms emploed by Royal Australian Mint + Perth Mint in respect to silver coins.

A few years back when silver prices started to sky rocket the mints were quick to raise their prices to reflect this.

Recent downturn in the silver market has seen silver half its price yet the mints retail prices have not refected this downturn.

What are your thoughts on this?

Pure profiteering practives by both mints I can understand but I feel the lower price has remained steady enough to see retial prices follow suit for both mints and reflect the lower price.

Does this disuade people from purchasing from mints, waiting a few months and picking up coins far far cheaper on ebay (eg Crocodile Bindi Coin)?

Pf course people will argue that the caviar silver coin has uped in price but I'm speaking in general

Your thoughts please.....
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06/01/2013 06:31 am
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 Posted 06/01/2013  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi MrCruise, when they bumped the price to $90 for a one ounce silver coin I virtually stopped buying any silver coin from either mint,now the 1 oz coins are $109 - $112.50 it's just absolutely ridiculous,especially with the recent drops in bullion,down to around the $21/$22 mark.
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 Posted 06/01/2013  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ohb1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure put me off me from continuing my collection...The price of the coin, and nowdays, the number/variety of coins they produce are beyond a joke. I fail to see how anyone starting out on the coin collecting hobby can focus in on any one theme...

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 Posted 06/01/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MobOfRoos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There has always been a huge premium on the new release bullion coins released by the Mints. I guess that represents their profit margin once they have deducted operating costs.

If you are buying coins for the gold or silver bullion you are far better off buying sovereigns and 1937 Crowns.
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 Posted 06/01/2013  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All mints buy precious metals for their various collector series on forward contract.
For their retail issuing pricing on the PM component of those products, that part of the pricing is made realtive to their forward contract price, and the current PM price at the time of sale, for overall optimum profit.

The retail sale issue price also has other components in it, such as
the cost of manufacture,
packaging costs,
marketing costs,
distribution costs,
taxes, and
profit.

All of these costs have to be recovered in the retail issue price.

In most cases, the volume issued for retail sale is what the mint considers to be the maximum the market will bear, relative to the intended issue price for that issue. The volume for a new issue is judged on feedback on how previous issues have performed under similar conditions.

Sometimes, they get that wrong. This is where a collector with good judgement can invest in a new issue, or in the aftermarket, to his benefit.

I agree with MobOfRoos, if you are strictly into Australian bullion coins.
All of the Mint's costs are sidestepped, by simply buying in the aftermarket on long established issues with long established pricing.
In this sort of case, common sovereigns and 1937 crowns were never issued as collector's pieces, and at a time when mints were not into high powered commercial marketing to collectors.
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 Posted 06/03/2013  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As per MoR - as far as I'm concerned pre-dec offers great value with the right buys.

If you insist on buying new, then consider mintage (for resale), collectibility, or Perth Mint bullion...
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