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Oxidization...does It Affect Grade

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Just looking at coinsauctionhelp.com and found a reference to oxidization occurring from coins being stored in the old orange Kraft envelopes. I acquired two 55 Arnprior silver dollars about ten years ago I am sure they are technically MS-63 or above but with the slight milky colour the eye appeal has worried me. Does this milky looking finish affect the grade
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Depends who is doing the grading. Some TPGs factor in eye appeal more than others. More importantly, it factors in to what a buyer is willing to pay for it!
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Oxidation, or more specifically sulphurization is contact with the atmosphere over time. This means that the coin was not protected properly or stored to the standards that most of us adhere to. It is technically not "mint state" if it is tarnished in any way, although people do collect tarnished coins. You'd also be yelled at if you "cleaned" a tarnished coin, although technically it is not "dirty". Overall, the coin did not leave the mint with sulphurization.
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Libertad,
What is a toned coin considered?
Just curious.
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It depnds on your definition of mint state.
Some say that mint state means the condition the coin when it comes out of the mint whereas others say that it means "never been in circulation".
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Oxidation or toning can work for you,.. or very much against you.

With copper,..the ideal coin is .."red" and often older collectors would have a lacquer coat on their large cents,..just to try and keep them from going dark or even black.

Now many with silver will find them more collectable or some are called "PQ" ..and this can add value to the coin. Here's a nice example of "good toning".



Oxidization...does-It-Affect-Grade

Oxidization...does-It-Affect-Grade


Now think of that 11 dollar that has just been posted here.

What would happen if the owner "dipped" it to get it "nice and bright" again.? He would have stripped 100's of thousands of dollars off of it's selling price..
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I was using those terms interchangeably. Tarnished, toned, sulphurized, oxidized - same - atmospheric change in the coin's metal surface.
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