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 Posted 06/03/2013  10:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi all,
here's a new byzatine I picked up, cleaned it up a tad.

seller pic


New-Byzantine-Coin

after some mild cleaning, not as good as the sellers pics..


New-Byzantine-Coin

LEO VI
886-912 AD.


25mm mm, 5.2 g

sear 1729


OBVERSE â€" LEON bASILVS ROm, bust facing, with short beard, wearing crown and chlamys and holding akakia in left hand

REVERSE â€" LEON/En QEO bA/SILVS R/OMEOn, legend in four lines

any one know what the reverse legend means? leo something king of romans?
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 Posted 06/04/2013  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow nice coin, even nicer than both of mine. Loosely translated " Leo in God King of the Romans"
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 Posted 06/04/2013  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi ,to be honest I preferred the coin as it was before cleaning!!however really a good coin!
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Nice find, chrsmat! I personally have always liked that coin, for what it tells us in an historical sense. We, today, are taught that the Roman Empire "ended" in about 476 CE, and that the Byzantine era started shortly thereafter. But here we have a coin from 4 centuries later that shows that the "Byzantines" did not think that way -- they still considered themselves Romans even at that late date. Of course the term "Byzantine Empire" is a modern term, but the perspective of how that particular culture thought of themselves says a lot to me. They always considered themselves Romans, a sentiment that lasted right up till 1453 as far as I know.
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thanks all....all true, the more I learn about this stuff the less sure I am as to when the byzatnine empires started and when the roman empire ended, since there really wasn't a "byzantine empire" as you mentioned..somewhat confusing....as many things interesting are I guess.
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Great coin! I need one of those.
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 Posted 06/05/2013  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi chrsmat

Yeah, even modern scholars have a difference of opinion as to the time when the Byzantine Empire "officially" began. Some claim it was about 328 CE or so, when Constantine moved the seat of Roman government and the whole senate out to his newly re-named city of Constantinople, others claim it was just after the fall of the western half of the empire, when the last western emperor, Romulus Augustus was kicked off the throne by the Germanic hordes, while the most commonly accepted date is 491, with the ascension of Anastasius to the Eastern throne. Poor Xeno (emperor of the east 476 - 491), seems to get left out in the cold -- he didn't get rule any sort of an empire at all!

And a bit of an interesting side note: the classic/mythical founder of Rome (c 752 BCE) and Rome's last official emperor were both named Romulus -- but no other emperor in between was. Only first and last.
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