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Question About Handling Coa's From NCLT

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Long story short, would bending a longer COA to fit into a smaller clamshell decrease the value of the coin?


Longer explaination:

I bought a coin from a set, and the coin came with the COA from that set. So I am trying to display the coin in a clamshell but the COA is too long. So I was going to bend it over on each end, making two creases, to fit it in a clamshell lid.

I know this is a weird question, being concerned for condition of the COA, but I am just curious to see what you all think before I do it. I am matching this coin with another that is in its own clamshell... I was hoping to have them both in a clamshell but this dang COA is so big lol.
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 Posted 06/05/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say no, but I recently had a buyer chisel me for $5 off on a ~$300 NCLT RCM coin because I didn't have the outer sleeve for the box. Those darn OCD NCLT collectors...
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 Posted 06/05/2013  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert and can't speak to the value of a coin, but from an aesthetic point of view, I wouldn't like a COA that has multiple creases that are visibly not supposed to be there. If I were buying a coin on the secondary market and both were priced the same, but one had a regularly folded COA and one had a COA with multiple creases that weren't crisp, I'd choose the regularly folded COA. But, I'm a bit OCD.



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I am usually not fussy but there's a reason why the numis coins are price the way they are - presentation and packaging. It is why RCM and other mints can charge 3 or more time the value of the spot...
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I suppose that is why I asked before I did it, didn't seem right haha. I guess I will just continue the hunt for a better way to display them!


Thanks all for your thoughts!
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 Posted 06/06/2013  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you should ship the COA as another item, not inside the clamshell and you avoid problems.
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I have heard of people who want things in perfect condition. The COA must be 100% intact with no additional creases. I don't think it should matter that much. It shouldn't be a deal breaker.
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I wouldn't want to purchase a coin with a folded COA, but then I'm weird when it comes to a lot of things. I also don't display my COA's with my coins, so that somewhat eliminates that problem.

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Long story short, would bending a longer COA to fit into a smaller clamshell decrease the value of the coin?


I believe it would, aswitzer.

Try and find an alternative way to display the coin with the COA.
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For sure it would... as already said, numismatic value is not only on the coin itself, it's on the packaging /COA/presentation case, etc.

Just think if the one who would like to buy it from you wants to display it in the original casing. He would have to unfold the COA and the two creases would be visible.

You see on ebay two similar auctions, one telling the COA has been bent with two creases and the other which states PERFECT condition... which one would you buy? At same cost it's obvious... now if I tell you the bent COA is 10$ less, then some will consider it, but and a lot of numis collector will not even look at the auction, 50% discount, 75% discount? They just don't care!
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But again, if it is for your own collection with no intention to sell, and it fits better and nice-looking this way... I would say it has a higher value with the COA folded!
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What about scanning it, and scaling it down to fit. Keep the original in a safe spot, and display the mock-up?
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 Posted 06/06/2013  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aswitzer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, many more responses from the last time I looked :) Thanks all for your opinions!

Here is a link to picture just to give an idea of what the two coins looks like. The COA's from sets have some length to them! lol
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/...06135104.jpg


TIPIT, I definitely have no intention of selling, but you never know what happens in the future! I am putting together a nice set of the gold plated pennies, have the third one coming right now. Maybe I should be looking for some sort of case that can hold all three together instead of putting them in separate clamshells.

Dcadon, yea I was thinking about doing that. If I end up keeping each coin in a clamshell I will definitely go that route. Might as well just make a copy for display... not like anyone else would know :P

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 Posted 06/06/2013  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aswitzer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I have heard of people who want things in perfect condition. The COA must be 100% intact with no additional creases. I don't think it should matter that much. It shouldn't be a deal breaker."

Well if someone is looking to buy the coin in perfect condition (with packaging and all), they will most likely want it as part of the 1812-2012 Deluxe set instead of on its own as I did not purchase any of the packaging with the coin, other than the COA.
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