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 Posted 06/09/2013  09:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ziskindd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1893-CC-DMP...30924996262&

"2,000,000 estate sale" "no TPG slab" means "GO AWAY!" Or am I just too skeptical.

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 Posted 06/09/2013  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new2coins69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldnt feel comfortable spending that much without a TPG
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 Posted 06/09/2013  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziskindd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
especially when the coin in question is an 1893CC (China problem), PL surfaces. (tooled, whizzed, at least harshly cleaned). I feel bad for the 21 bidders who have it bid up past $450.

Could you imagine (and I DO NOT mean this at all by implication), if some of the more well-seasoned people on this forum pulled this; it would shake e-bay to the core, given the incidence of fake TPG slabs.

Fortunately, PCGS is trying: U.S. Patent No. 8,376,133.
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 Posted 06/09/2013  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This guy has way to many keys and semi key coins that look MS for me to even consider a bid. Some of these would fetch far better prices if graded and were in a different auction venue. I will pass on this sellers listings.
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 Posted 06/09/2013  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an expert on varieties of Morgans but something is not right about the eagle feathers on this. if it is genuine it has been polished to death and tooled. at best AU - Improperly cleaned and altered.
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 Posted 06/09/2013  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grancap74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I cannot comment on tooling but this sure does appear to have been whizzed at the VERY least.
Believe me, I know very well when a coin comes up you really desire it is easy to "ignore" certain indications which would otherwise tell you that "something just isn't right".
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 Posted 06/09/2013  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely cleaned/polished/whizzed/something-ed. Looks real to me though.
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 Posted 06/09/2013  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you guys mean, specifically, when you say "whizzed"?
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 Posted 06/09/2013  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add new2coins69 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Via a google search:

Whizzed (Tooled): A coin that has been polished by using a jeweler's tool, Dremel, steel wool, or a fine-wire brush. A whizzed coin will either have a mirror finish or fine lines will be evident on its surface. It doesn't have to be on the entire coin, it could just a be one small spot. Regardless, of  how much, a coin with any unnatural lines is considered a damaged and cleaned coin. Sometimes these lines can be masked with improper photographing techniques. But even the most disguised picture will have certain characteristics to look for.

One, the seller with use light glare to mask the surface details of a coin. Two, the seller may photograph the coin at a certain angle so all the coin details aren't apparent. Three: Use photo editing software to soften, smudge, or blur the cleaning lines. If you think the seller has manipulated their photos or trying to mask a coin's problems, ask for different pictures. If they offer an excuse like "these are the best I can take", then don't ever bid on their coins.

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 Posted 06/10/2013  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your sane.
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