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Capped Bust Half Dollar, A Problem Coin?

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 Posted 06/23/2013  10:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add raybutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello to all, I recently bought this coin at a very good price and now I'm wondering why it was so cheap. Is it a problem coin? What's wrong with it?


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 Posted 06/23/2013  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Deals sometimes happen.

It's a common variety (O-108, I think) of a common date, and judging by stuff still stuck into the tight nooks and crannies, it's suffered a cleaning at some point in its' past. There's also a rim ding just below 3:00. Still worthy of a collection, but I wouldn't break $50 for it.
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 Posted 06/23/2013  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add raybutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I got it for $45 and like the detail. I agree it looks to be cleaned, but in my experience most old coins have been cleaned at some point. This is my first CB Half and I'll do a lot more research to see which coins I want to add to my collection.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on your 1st Capped Bust Half! Definitely been cleaned but the price was right. I would say Fine details for the grade.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the cleaning. Looks like around F-15 details.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For 45$, you did good .
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 Posted 06/24/2013  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add babysitr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At that age you're bound to have some problems....They're great coins,,available at a reasonable cost....Even cleaned,,,she is sweet!!
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 Posted 06/24/2013  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stringboogie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
good lookin half for the money.looks to be re-toning
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 Posted 06/24/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Other than an old cleaning, it's not a bad coin. I think you got it for a decent price.
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 Posted 06/24/2013  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add raybutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the responses. I have a question, why are CB Halves generally cheaper than comparable Quarters?

I have seen several Halves on ebay lately for 50-75 dollars in VF while the CB Quarters I've seen are 100+.

Maybe it's just an anomaly (small sample size) or is there another reason, perhaps lower mintage numbers?
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 Posted 06/25/2013  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, there are a few reasons Capped Bust Halves are cheaper than the Capped Bust quarters. Most obviously, mintage numbers. Add up the total mintage for all Capped Bust quarters (large sized) and you get roughly 1.2 million for ALL dates combined. They made more halves almost every year than that. Some years they made over 5 million Halves.. The second reason is the length of time they produced CBH's. 1807-1836 minus 1816.....so 29 years vs. 10 years for the CBQ. Two of those years are virtually un-collectable. 1823 I've never seen in person and the 1827, they made 4000. I've never seen either in person. Both are SUPER rare. The 1824/ is difficult but possible to find.

The most interesting thing about Bust Halves vs. Bust Quarters IMO is the way they were used affected survival rates very differently. CBH's were traded amongst banks a lot. Therefore, they stayed in bags and never saw the counter as much as the quarters. As a result, they saw less wear (generally) and fewer were lost/damaged etc. CBQ's, on the other hand were not only made for a handful of years, they saw HEAVY circulation. Of the roughly 1.2 million minted, perhaps 30% are gone forever. Lost or destroyed. Of the survivors, MANY are damaged and/or heavily worn. So, when you come across an honest CBQ that is problem free it has truly beat the odds and IMO is one of the most desirable coins out there. I have collected them for many years and the supply is tighter than ever since the collector base has widened. With less than a million survivors, of which half of those are probably heavily damaged, cleaned, holed etc., you can see that the series is truly rare. Take the Draped Bust Series. Even more rare.
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 Posted 06/25/2013  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add raybutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jpbone, very helpful history lesson. I always figured halves are worth more because of their obvious intrinsic advantage over quarters, but the CB quarters being that scarce and circulated makes sense as to why they are valued higher.
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