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What Is A "Cheap" Coin?

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 Posted 02/09/2005  09:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a question that comes up pretty frequently.

Cheap is a misnomer.
Many people want to buy as many coins as they can for their money. Most seasoned collectors and dealers will tell you that this is the wrong approach.
Buying a roll of Indian cents for $50 is all fine and dandy, but a better buy would be 1 nice brilliant uncirculated Indian cent for $50.
When buying coins, buy the best coin you can for your price. This will always be a better buy. You will be happier with your coin, and the price when it comes time to sell will be better.

Now take into consideration that cheap is a relative term.

Example: If I offered you a MS-65 1896-O Morgan dollar for $140,000 that would be "cheap".
The dealer that bought the last 1913 Liberty nickel for $3 million thought that was cheap. In my opinion he was right.

Good deals are buying a coin high in the grade. Example would be buying a very sharp EF 45 coin for EF 40 money. If you learn to cherry pick the coins, you will find the deal not so much in the sticker price, but what you are getting for your money.

There are so many people in this hobby that think cheap is good.

Don't grab the first coin that hits your price. These are your hard earned dollars you are spending. Be choosy. Never settle for what is close. Buy what is good.
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 Posted 02/09/2005  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good advice ND. When my wife decided that Morgan dollars were her game she went after the best she could find (still does) and those darned old Carson City Morgans, that cost her $200, $300 and $400 each have risen 2 to 4 times higher than her purchase price in just the last 5 years. Don't believe the "cheaper" Morgans have done that, have they? We usually buy anywhere from 2 to 5 unc. Morgans every time we visit the coin shop (money permitting) and we have yet to regret that decision. I admit, when it comes to key dates or rarer issues we may step down on the grade but in many cases its whatever you may find on any given day. We will purchase something we don't have or really need and can always upgrade later if something comes available. I WILL never regret buying high quality coins as I have found there is ALWAYS someone wanting them ALL THE TIME!!!
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 Posted 02/09/2005  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zakgold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At the FUN show in Ft. Lauderdale, I attended one of seminars, "50 mistakes collectors make" and one of the mistakes was that people buy way too much commons because they feel the more "holes" that are filled, the better. They should instead buy one coin versus 50 if that coin is key or high quality. After all, there are only so many keys, they constantly go up, and commons will always be, well, commons!

I took that advice when I hit the FUN floor and bought only 4 coins after 6 hours of browsing. Took all 4 to the TPG's, asked for their "opinion" and was happy that their opinions were pretty much close to my grades. Filled out their submission forms and off they went.

Last year, I COULD of purchased a PCGS 1922 Strong Reverse Lincoln Cent EF40 for $1600. I declined and bought commons. What a mistake as prices for this coin in this grade are almost double!! Prices for the commons I bought...SAME. [Insert Homer Simpson "Doh" here]

Always buy the keys and quality first. You may have a coin album with only one coin in it, but eventually commons will find their way into your slots much easier than the quality and key date coins.
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 Posted 02/09/2005  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I think cheap, the first thought that comes to mind is the surviving examples or condition. Few collectors look past mintage numbers or take into consideration the great melting years. Frequently we receive emails or calls about the low mintage numbers of the (common) Morgan dollar series.

1886-S 750,000
1888-S 657,000
1889-S 700,000
1899-P 330,846

$100 and up in Mint State

Now given this info on face value it would seem that these would command nice premiums, but as most seasoned collectors know, they are not. These are traded daily with some of the lowest values in the series.

Comparing the numbers with simular low mintages:

1879-CC 756,000
1880-CC 591,000
1889-CC 350,000
1893-P 378,792
1893-CC 677,000
1893-S 300,000
1895-O 450,000
1895-S 400,000

$100 plus in the lowest of grades

All of these dates carry premiums easy to understand. They are highly collected, and rarely are they encountered in high states of preservation.

Now if you compare other series with small mintages and low rates of survival, they are really cheap.

All Half Cents have low mintages. Some with miniscule numbers like the 1849 with a mintage of 39,864
Many of the Large Cents such as the 1821 with a mintage of 389,000

Next the super rare:

1855 Three Cent Silver 139,000
1876 Three Cent Nickel 162,000

Now for those who want to spend a little more for unbelievable numbers:

1864 Three Cent Silver 12,470
1865 Three Cent Silver 8,500
1867-1872 Three Cent Silver with mintages in the 4000 to 5000 range.
1884-1886 Three Cent Nickels also with mintages in the 4000 range.

These are just a few examples that a grand can buy in low Mint State grades. Out of 4500 examples, how many can truely be available?

Start looking at series that are not highly collected, and many "cheap" coins can be found. Mix in HTT or CWT and you can pick up known surviving examples under 25 for a few hundred dollars.


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 Posted 02/09/2005  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will admit that I have bought lots to fill holes,, and some of these worked out very well in the more common date cents,I filled alot of holes, for not a lot of money,, but in the last several years,, I have concentrated on upgrading my personal collection,the prices of the keys has gone up and I wish I had known some of the advice I have received in the last several months(buy the keys first) but I was basically alone in this hobby no mentoring and now I pay the price for it.

But its still the most fulfilling hobby I have ever had,, and Ive had and have many ,,My wife calls the spare bedroom the hobby of the week room,, I dont think its fair but I put up with it !!!
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