Grading A 1880-S Morgan Dollar. You Vs Seller

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zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 5:49 pm Hi I'm looking to purchase a lovely 1880-S Morgan dollar. It has some lovely toning. The seller identifies it as a 1880-S MSPL-65. Please grade and tell me how much I should offer. Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 6:23 pm I see neither 65 (definitely) nor PL (likely), and with the coin in a non-recognizable slab I won't even stand firm on authenticity. There's only one reason for a coin not to be in a slab from PCGS/NGC/ANACS/ICG/SEGS: the coin won't make that grade from a "real" TPG. I'm not convinced the coin is even Uncirculated - the surfaces of the hair and cap give me pause. I do not at all like how the toning has propagated, either. It's not consistent with natural toning. I could be wrong, because Morgans with odd toning have surfaced before, but if it were me I wouldn't even look at this one. Do you know the name of the "grading firm" which slabbed it? Report this Post to the Staff
zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 6:33 pm It is not done by any grading firm. It's a self-slabbed coin. The picture of the complete slab have been uploaded to the original post. Edited by zxcccxz 07/06/2013 6:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 6:40 pm Denver West Mint. I might have known. You're right - they're not a grading firm - but they call themselves one anyway. Based on what I've seen from them the last few years (they've been on my radar since I first saw them), and the feedback I'm hearing from people who have dealt with them on other forums, you can assume this is an artificially-toned coin. I won't even dignify them by offering a realistic opinion of grade. Report this Post to the Staff
zxcccxz Pillar of the Community Canada 5417 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 6:49 pm Alright thanks Dave. What caught my eye about this one was the toning, which seemed amazing. Other than that the PL made it interesting too. Otherwise a common date combined with a non-certified slab would have not even caught my eye. I was hoping to get this one but I can't justify it now. Appreciate all the help. Report this Post to the Staff
fenton Pillar of the Community United States 4989 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 8:17 pm Looks like an AU coin that has been creatively photographed. Doubt it would look as nice in hand Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18657 Posts	Posted 07/06/2013 8:34 pm the coin is not MS more like AU. Creative lighting and photography is enhancing the pics. Fenton got it right Report this Post to the Staff
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