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Two More New Ones, Need Some Help Iding Them

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Here are two more coin from the trade with Nate, I know they are both from Carthage but I don't have a reference for them. Need some expert help.

AE 20, 5.4 grams
Head of Tanit I
Reverse is horse knealing on his left leg with the right leg extender. Over the horses back is what appears to be a club and a side wards letter H. Beautiful dark patina.



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Next is an AE15 at 1.4 grams. Head of Tanit I with the reverse of a horse standing right with a palm tree in the center background.



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 Posted 07/07/2013  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Their Carthaginian or Carthago Nova right?

The second one the Horse should have a palm tree behind it if I am not mistaken. Maybe not but that is the most common of this type I have seen (but yet to own)
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Yes it has a palm tree behind the horse.
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I just purchased one of these. The second one looks to be the same type as mine. SNG Copenhagen 109. But I am no expert and there are many varieties of this coin with subtle variances.

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Joseph it's and exact match. Thanks.
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All nice coins echizento.

This first one is Kore or Persphone from Syracuse I believe. Like this one.

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=221312

Nice to see you getting some Greek coins and others.

I have a Carthaginian like yours as well.

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The is the one. I was way off on this one. Thanks for the help.
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Nice trade!! The Syracuse looks a bit pricey even in worn conditions.
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dang...your on a coins surge ski....yeHAaaaaaaa!
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Coin number 2 from Punic Carthage is too small to be SNG COP 109. It is most likely, quite a bit earlier...

Alexandropoulos 18 mint: Carthage and others, 400-350 BC
Calciati III p 388-393 20
SNG Danish Natinal Museum North Africa mint: Sicilian? late 4C-3C BC
SNG Milano XIV mint: Sicily late 4C-early 3C BC

Jenkins-Lewis (1963) Appendix 3 pp 132-134
describe 16 varieties on account of pellet patterns

There is a huge weight range for these (as there are for most types) This one has coins on the low end 1.00 grams. Of the 402 specimens recovered and cataloged the yhave a weight range of 1.00 -4.90 grams.

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