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Hello guys,
on a recent thread of mine I had lots and lots of asian coins for identification.
Sap had a nice guide which I used and identified almost all of them, but I still have a few coins that I was not able to identify.
Please help me with these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40051066791....m1497.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40051066722....m1497.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/40051066722....m1497.l2649
(rotate the third one left once to see the coin in the right direction)
Thanks in advance.
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 Posted 07/09/2013  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the first is China, cash, emperor Shen Tsung, era hsi ning (xi ning) 1068-1077

Same for number 2
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 Posted 07/09/2013  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Third I am thinking Sheng Sung Yuan but not to clear.

http://www.coinproject.com/search_e...pe=37&page=2
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 Posted 07/09/2013  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pheroow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can someone check if his guess is right?
I have doubt about coin #3
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 Posted 07/09/2013  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why not just buy a copy of Schjoth?
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 Posted 07/09/2013  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pheroow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is that?
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Frederick Schhoth wrote the standard work in English on Chinese Cash coins called "Chinese Currency."
Otherwise there are two other good references in English, "Fisher's Ding" which is an annotated translation of Ding Fubao's "Illustrated Catalogue of Chinese Coins" or Hartill's book (I forget the title off hand). I personally prefer Schjoth over the others.
E-mail me, I sell the first two books (Schjoth and Ding).
Also have a peek at my website (link below) for Chinese Cash for sale. I have more that aren't on the site as well.
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#3 does appear to be the type rooneydog linked to; here is one on zeno.ru.

I have two catalogues for Chinese cash: the David Hartill book (titled "Cast Chinese Coins") and the book put out by Krause, "Chinese Cash: Identification and Price Guide" by David Jen. Jen is full of errors (unless they've issued a second edition since my copy came out; my copy is full of scribbled corrections I've had to make) but is still the only "price guide" out there; the Hartill catalogue only has a 15-point rarity scale, and the other catalogues are so old I'm thinking any indicators of rarity and value in them are likely to be obsolete.
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I haven't switched over to Hartill, I'm still clinging to my Schjoth numbers for as long as I can.
Jen is notoriously error riddled. There is a price guide which was added to Schjoth after publication which is good for assessing relative rarity, and if you convert the 1965 prices to 2013 prices they're still pretty much within the range of normal prices you'll find in the marketplace (run them through the inflation calculator on westegg.com to convert the 1965 prices to 2013 prices).
Pricing in those catalogs is always basically a best guesstimate.
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