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Can someone tell me about this coin and the current values?
The gold coin is 1 1/2 in. across Man with olive leaves in headband, beard and mustache.
Front--Frang-10S.I.D.G. Austriae Imperator
Back--L.O.D. ILL. REX A. 1915 Hungar. Bohem. Gal. C4 } Double headed eagle W/ crown in between heads. Sword in left talon--ball w/ cross on top in right talon as you are looking at the coin. It has a few light scratches, otherwise bright and in good condition
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Sounds like a ducat or something. Austria and all and 1915.
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Belgium
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Well it mentions Hungary and Bohemia and could be
Vienna mint / Austria
Look at Krause nr 2267 suddenly in the middle of the column
they put nr 5992 and there is 1915 ( bad pic though )
and that would make it a Ducat 1915
with the all present warning beware RESTRIKES
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From what I get it is a Krause #2276 4 ducat gold. It should weigh 13.9636 g. and it is gold .4430 oz.AGW. Obverse is Ruler, Franz Joseph and the Obverse may or may not have a mint mark. The 1915 dated coins were restruck from 1920 thru 1936 and there were a total of 496,501 pieces struck. They show the value at BV+8%? The 1914 in XF is listed at $275 and in Unc. at $350. Due to the fact the 1915 was restruck for over 16 years I do believe you will find the value considerably lower. Perhaps a check on ebay could give you some idea. Hope this helps you out ND! |
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I have not seen the coin. A customer of mine found it while moving. Since my knowledge of world coins wouldn't fill a thimble, I thought that you guys could help. I sent the link that ageka posted to my customer to see if it matches. That will at least narrow it down a bit. I don't expect it is worth much, but they spend quite a bit of money with my firm, so going the extra mile on this will be well worth it.
Thanks for the info.
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Belgium
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If it is a large 40 mm and only weighs half an ounce pancake thin it is that ugly 4 dukats coin I have and did not think of It did not fit in the largest window 2x2 they make here so I had to squeeze it in and since they can be selfadhesive I had to use that feature to prevent the coin from popping out  Edited by ageka
06/23/2005 10:25 am
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Belgium
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If it is this one They all go melt or below on ebay austria and germany Oh I forgot , most were struck with a crappy die badly polished so chances are what you call scratshes are just normal diepolishing lines Edited by ageka
06/23/2005 10:19 am
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ageka is showing us the coin I had in mind. Not sure where the mint mark is located but there is a difference between the mint mark and no mint mark when it comes to value? Yes, they are pancake thin but still I find them an attractive coin. |
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I allready had a discussion on german and US forums how to identify a 100 korona standing emperor
Restrike versus original with Krause and Schöen guides in hand
I never got an answer on that one
I never saw anybody claim to possess an original 4 ducats
If I understand Krause correctly they stopped mintmarks in 1872
and 1915 seem to be restrikes only
I could ask somebody in Germany with a Schön guide
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Originally posted by crystalk64
ageka is showing us the coin I had in mind. Not sure where the mint mark is located but there is a difference between the mint mark and no mint mark when it comes to value? Yes, they are pancake thin but still I find them an attractive coin.
I bought them sight unseen and liked the design very much But like I said the finish of the fields even on this one without die lines is not of superior quality Also the weight in hand is disappointing because you expect something hevier ( I have the same size in one ounce and that feels and looks a lot better ) I think this is the only modern coin you could bent by hand |
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Austria
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Restrikes of these Austrian gold coins are still produced by the Austrian mint:
1 Ducat 1915
4 Ducats 1915
4 Gulden (also called Florin; abbreviation Fl.) 1892
8 Gulden (also called Florin; abbreviation Fl.) 1892
10 Kronen (or Coronae) 1912
20 Kronen (or Coronae) 1915
100 Kronen (or Coronae) 1915
Originals from these years are existing, but there is no obvious difference between the Originals and the Restrikes. That’s why all these coins are traded at the gold value in Austria.
As ageka already mentioned, the last year that mintmarks were used on Austrian coins was 1872, so you wont find a mintmark on one of those coins. At that time there were only two mints left in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Vienna for the Austrian coins and Kremnitz for the Hungarian coins (with the mintmark K.B.).
About the Restrikes of the Hungarian gold coins:
100 Korona 1907 K.B.
100 Korona 1908 K.B.
Here there is definitely some kind of difference between the Originals and the Restrikes, unfortunately I don’t know how the Original can be identified.
I can only tell you what my Austrian coin catalogue says about the Restrikes:
“Farbe rötlich und nicht mattiert.” (Colour light red and not matt.)“
Edited by Msc
07/02/2005 11:58 am
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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The colour difference suggests a change in alloy. Perhaps more copper is present in the restrikes?
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Belgium
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As shown before I bought my 100 Korona as a restrike from an exchange agent who knows only bullion coins But it does not look red I found an explanantion why the cross is crooked but no info on restrike versus original question not in Krause not in Schön nowhere  |
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Posted 06/23/2005 04:34 am
