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Franklin Half: PMD Or Planchet Flaw

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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this in a box of halves today and it was an ender. The rest of the box was beat casino coins with all of the reeding peened off. At fist I though maybe the coin got jammed in a counter or roller or slot machine since the rest of the coins were casino coins but the area around the date makes me think it may be a planchet lamination.

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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin. Can we get a straight-on shot of the obverse?
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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see your pic on the other forum now... I think it's a real planchet flaw. Unfortunately, the coin also has roller damage, so that will hurt it's value. No idea what it's worth, but it's dang cool.
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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a peeled lamination. The piece is still attached and sitting on Franklin's face. Nice find.
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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nathancrh1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like patchlet flaw and has also tooken a beating. One things for sure, that coins has a tough life!
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 Posted 07/25/2013  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree it looks like a lamination error but I'm still trying to decipher what's going on with the date. It appears recessed?
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 Posted 07/25/2013  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess the lamination by the date peeled off before the coin was struck.
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 Posted 07/25/2013  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, that's right Jack. Flawed planchet before it was even struck.
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 Posted 07/26/2013  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenChest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome Franklin Lamination. Hard to find such a strong example. I would suggest a acetone bath to try and clean it up. Please inform us as to your plans with it. I'm sure a few member here would be interested in it if you wish to sell it. Regardless, congrats on a awesome roll find.
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I agree it looks like a lamination error but I'm still trying to decipher what's going on with the date. It appears recessed?

The planchet had a lamination that was in place during the strike. The section of lamination from the date area has been lost post strike and the lamination from above the date has been folded back up and over Franklin's mouth, nose, eye, and forehead.
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 Posted 07/26/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fasttalker27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is roller damage?
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 Posted 07/26/2013  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Roller damage also known as wheel marks.

When the coins are rolled by Loomis or Brinks the wrapping machine grinds a circular pattern on the end coins.
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 Posted 07/26/2013  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would suggest a acetone bath to try and clean it up.
I would not recommend any sort of acetone bath or anything else to remove the coin's original patina. It is that patina which adds character to the coin.

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 Posted 07/26/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Far out! I've never seen anything like that before. I'm surprised that any part of the lamination is still attached to the coin. My first though was also PMD, but that clearly cannot be the case since the date is still extant. Cool find!
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 Posted 07/26/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinDan98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very neat find!
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