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 Posted 07/28/2013  12:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add markosjal to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Recently purchased the coins in attached image , they were way cheap and I suspect certain things however I am not a coin collector and wanted to get opinions , so I will not say what I think to avoid tainting opinions of others..

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 Posted 07/28/2013  03:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm guessing all are fake except for maybe the Oregon Trail Half. Maybe the Seated dollars are real too but from the reverse it is quite obvious that the flowing hair dollar is fake. What did you pay for them?
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 Posted 07/28/2013  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rycolemet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
do they stick to a magnet? If yes, they are certain fakes. I would be really surprised if any were real if you got them cheap.
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 Posted 07/28/2013  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markosjal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suffice to say I did not buy them in the USA. Here in Mexico most people are accustomed to ignoring old coins because most have no value unless they are something they recognize as silver or otherwise.

I agree about the flowing hair dollar , but not for the same reasons you say, I am thinking because the bust appears off center. I also fouund this which seems similar to what I have

http://www.tradekey.com/product-fre...-213526.html

DId the Magnet test on all three except the flowing hair dollar, will test that one later as it is separate from the others.
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 Posted 07/28/2013  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markosjal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Flowing Hair Dollar is not attracted to a magnet!
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 Posted 07/28/2013  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a Draped Bust dollar, by the way, or at least pretending to be one. The Chinese fake in the link you provided is one commonly seen, with a variety of different dates added to it. There are some flaws that stand out like a signature identifying that particular fake, but would need a better picture of yours to see if they are present.
https://goccf.com/t/147653
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 Posted 07/29/2013  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markosjal to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@zxcccxz

Can you please describe the details of the reverse side that you refer to ? I began to see that this was different from an authentic 1795 Posted here , then I found this on ebay with what appears to be the same reverse design
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-Draped...em3f23c8c92c
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 Posted 07/29/2013  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, even without better pics, we can see the Draped Bust dollar matches the characteristics of the variety B-14 BB-51, which is why the bust looked off-center to you. That's a 1795 variety, though, so the date has been changed. The B-14 BB-51 variety was the template copied by the Chinese fakers to make the particular fake we've been talking about.
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 Posted 07/29/2013  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love that fake 1856 dollar! Please post the gram weights if you can get a scale. You're not hurting anything by breaking them out of the paper holders, which might be worth more than the coins themselves.

http://www.coinfacts.com/silver_dol...r_dollar.htm

The date is not even a reasonable facsimile.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 07/29/2013  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As already mentioned, 1796 dollar is fake. The off center bust was only used in 1795. The two Seated dollars also look suspicious. The date on the 1856 looks malformed and parts of the rim and denticles on the reverse are weak. The 1872 has an weird groove on the rim by United on the reverse and some of the reverse denticles are weak while in other areas it is much stronger. That leaves the oregon trail half dollar which may or may not be genuine. The pictures are not clear enough to tell. I am not seeing any obvious signs like the others but I am not as familiar with commemoratives.
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The date on the 1856 is a dead giveaway it's fake. I suspect the other half dollar as well.
As mentioned, the 1796 DBD is a fake. The commem might be real. I would suspect all to be underweight.
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