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Fractional Parts Of The Lion Dollar ?

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I recently bought a coin sold on ebay as a 1648 leuwendaalder (lion dollar) of the Netherlands; however, the coin is only 3/4 of the diameter and half as thick as my 1659 lion dollar. Can anyone tell me the fractional denominations of these coins and the catalog value of the coin I bought. Thank you.
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We would really need to know which province of the Netherlands issued the coin (Utrecht, Kampen, Zeeland, etc) and its condition in order to estimate its value. Pictures or a scan would be very helpful to identify it. Krause 3rd edition (2003) lists for example West Friesland 1/2 Lion daalers (24 stuiver) issued in 1648 for $80 fine, $135 VF. Keep in mind these are fairly old catalog values, before the recent run up in prices for the better grade pieces.
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Thank you. The coin weighs about 13 grams (half the weight of the lion dollar) and comes from West Friesland. It is well-struck with full date and legend: grading hammered coins does not lend itself well to the American system of grading. Since I paid $70, I got a good deal. The ebay seller was greatgwgr. You can look at my feedback to see a picture. Wish I knew how to transfer pictures from ebay to this site.
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This must be your coin. Very nice!
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First you have to save the image to your computer, then you can add it to your post.

Move the mouse so that the pointer is over the picture in the ebay listing. Use the right mouse button to click on it. A menu should appear, Choose "Save picture as..". A "file save" dialog box should appear. Enter a file name in the text box, then click save. Now you have the file on your computer.

The second step is to upload the image file to a post on coin community. You have to use "Reply to Topic", then click on the little green camera icon which is labeled "insert an image file". Then a new dialog box will appear to allow you to specify the name of the image file you got from ebay. The complete instructions for doing this step are here:
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Use the "Preview" button to make sure you have it right before you hit "Post new reply"
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That is the coin! Thanks for the info. Since the coin was in a silver dollar holder, I knew it was probably a half leuwendaalder and, like the Spanish 4-reales piece, seldom offered and equal in value to the more common crown-sized piece.
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Very nice 'Dog Dollar.' Some say the Daalder was the coin the US Silver Dollar was named and patterned after. They were erroneously called Dog Dollars by the colonists in Dutch New York.
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