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This is the reverse of a 1913 Barber Half I got as part of a lot. It dawned on me that 1913, 1914, and 1915 Barber halves are easily faked by removing the mintmark. Does this look tampered with? Is there another way to tell if 1913, 1914, and 1915 Barber halves are authentic?  Edited by buddy16cat
08/03/2013 03:44 am
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Here is a closer date, looks like a mark or scratch going from the "O" in Dollar up to the left of the of the tale but do not see any scratch marks. I did sharpen the picture around where the mint mark would be with a photo editor to get a better look.  Edited by buddy16cat
08/03/2013 04:26 am
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perhaps you can look through a loupe across the surface to see if it is flat, or is slightly recessed after a MM removal  |
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Okay, so you can tell if the area is recessed after looking at it through a loupe. I don't see any scratch marks only a mark going from the "D" to the left side of the eagle's tale. This may be alright, I don't see any scratches and hasn't been cleaned to cover those up. Is that a die crack or PMD? I looked again and there is a mark that starts at the D, goes to the "O" and extends to the left of the tail. Edited by buddy16cat
08/03/2013 05:21 am
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Looking to see if the surface is flat or recessed, is only an educated guess. I was thinking that you might see an indicator if something was removed.  |
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I found this web site about removed mintmark detection: http://www.tipsicocoin.com/mintmarks2.htmlI will have to check the coin out when I get it and tilt it to the light like the website says. The example they show though has scratch marks around the mint mark which were hidden with a harsh cleaning. |
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You could always send it to ANACS to determine if it's genuine
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Pricey to send that to ANACS, given the lower grade and lack of obvious tooling, I'd be inclined to say yes, it's real.
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looks okay, no sign of MM removal
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Well, considering an AG retails at 50 bucks, I don't think the 20 bucks to send this in to verify is too much. It looks like it may well grade G4. I would ANACS it.
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So you're cool with spending 40% of the value of the coin on certification?
To speak quite frankly, that is one of the dumbest things I've heard. It will sell just fine as is, if it's return on investment you're looking for.
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That's only if it grades as AG. I think it will grade higher. And tell me just how else you would verify 100% that it is not altered? Its not a matter os spending the money as an investment. Its a matter of ensuring authenticity.
Perhaps for you it would be money wasted. For me, it would not and therefor is not dumb at all. Personally I think it is dumb not to verify such coins when one can. Different ways of looking at it.
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I examined the coin with a loop and tilted it and seen no signs of mint mark removal. I read this web site and that is what they did. I also examined a larger picture. Usually people here at CCF and other discussion boards are rather quick to pick up on fakes. I consider this coin to be G06 but do not know what a TPG would grade it. Here is the front. What do you think the value is? Kind of hard to tell since there are always a variety of factors that goes into what people are willing to pay for a coin at a given time.   Edited by buddy16cat
08/13/2013 5:01 pm
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Looks like a G6 to me as well. Probably worth about $60. Smoker, if you want to waste your money getting a semi-common coin in low grade with low value authenticated, more power to you. I can tell just from looking at the coin that it's fine, perhaps I'm simply a more skilled numismatist than you. Nothing wrong with a beginner seeking out the authentication skills of those more versed in such things than themselves... even if they want to waste $20 needlessly in the process. Your money, your call. OP, if you want to sell that, just throw it on ebay with those pics, you'll get market value for it. No question at least a G4, more than likely a G6, and undoubtedly real. |
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That is what I was thinking as well, somewhat about $60.
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08/14/2013 03:50 am
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Is there any particular reason you feel the need to be nasty? I thought this was supposed to be about sharing knowledge and opinions, not about taking veiled shots at people and proving your self perceived superiority.
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