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Valued Member
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I submitted some coins to ANACS. You can read about one of them here https://goccf.com/t/146245&whichpage=3 However, the 1914d that I submitted came back ungraded. Could some or many of you give an assessment? My assumption is that ANACS thinks that the coin is a fake. Would you all's agree? Would if make sense to submit the coin to NSG? Thanks in advance!     |
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I don't know for sure, but ANACS ought to have indicated in some fashion their reason for refusal to grade, even if it was just a code listed somewhere. What stands out for me here is the mint mark - it doesn't look remotely right.
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Pillar of the Community
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Just wondering, can you call ANACS and ask why?
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I did call ANACS and they only referred me to the number assigned to the "Grading" which is 4943869 which doesn't say much more than N9. Gotta tell ya, NCG has a much nicer website and friendlier phone reps. I really felt like this was more of a "hobby" based on the way I was put on hold and the cranky rep.
I always read on this site that ANACS is great with Varieties and Fakes, so I didn't really want to "argue" with the rep as much as find out "why". Would you think for the assessment fee they could write a line or two?
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Google is your friend. Surprised the person at ANACS couldn't answer your question because I'm sure they get the N9 question hundreds of times a day. http://www.anacs.com/(A(zHjeIB_HzgE...ervices.aspxOther Grade Designations Used GH (Genuine) PV (PVC) N8 (Non-eligible- wrong size for encapsulation, not something we grade, corrosion that is not PVC) N9 (altered coin, not genuine, questionable authenticity, etc) Edited by jack jeckel
08/03/2013 3:58 pm
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Whats up with the rim on the reverse?
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N9? Altered mint mark. No doubt for this one.
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United States
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SsuperDdave, now that you've drawn my attention to it, the mint mark does look a little odd. Sure wish I'd have known what to look for when I bought this coin. Do you think the entire coin has been manufactured as a fake or is it a different year Lincoln that was modified to look like a 1914d?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's a 1914 Lincoln (common date) with an added mintmark. I should say probably but the likelihood is about 99.9% that's what it is.
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United States
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BH1964 - I'm curious about how they added the mint marks. Also, if they are going to go through the effort of doing that, why not use the correct mint mark?
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Pillar of the Community
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How you didn't pay much for it!
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Also, if they are going to go through the effort of doing that, why not use the correct mint mark? You're applying 21 century thinking. Nowadays you could be standing in a snow field in Siberia, decide you want to know what a 1914 D cent looks like, type it in your phone browser and have an answer in seconds. Not that long ago, you either had to look at an actual example or find a reference book. Spoke with a coin dealer a bit ago who said that they never buy 1914D cents or 1916D dimes from old collections because they are usually fake. Resources weren't as easy to come by then. |
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You're applying 21 century thinking. Nowadays you could be standing in a snow field in Siberia, decide you want to know what a 1914 D cent looks like, type it in your phone browser and have an answer in seconds. You make a great point! Hadn't thought of it that way. I didn't think that it was faked a long time ago. Somehow I got it in my head that it was faked recently. I obviously don't understand this whole thing at all. So, if someone has made this point, I've missed it. Is that the give away on this coin, the mint mark? I've "A" - "B" this with two other 1914D's that I send in the same batch. One came back "Cleaned" and the other was an F-15. Anyway. I used my USB microscope and frankly I can't see any difference in the shape of the mint mark. Obvious I need a few lessons on what to look for. What I did see was the position of the mint mark. On the "fake" one it does seem to be lower than on my other two coins. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The coin has been cleaned. You should have rinsed off the surface debris with water before submission!
The MM is suspect, it's much lower than usual and the shape is off.
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Bedrock of the Community
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In the future, post coins here before TPG submission. We might be able to save you some money. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Just asking. How much would this rube be worth if it was genuine?
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Posted 08/03/2013 12:29 pm
