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 Posted 08/09/2013  6:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bill_ocnj to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
i have been doing ebay with someone taking pics with a cheap camera.
want to buy a system that can be teathered to laptop so I can see what the pic is prior.
i do not want to do any photoshop, just take the best pic and ebay 2500 items as quickly as possible.
i have 500 items on right now.
went to a camera store >>>>
The following information is what you requested.

Canon T3 Camera with Canon 18-55 IS Zoom Lens. $449.99
Auto Focus Extension Tubes f/Canon $ 79.99

The above is all that is required to completely control the camera from your computer. We will provide the education and support so you can achieve the results you require
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SHOULD I do this or something else you suggest ?
ANY ADVICE
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 Posted 08/09/2013  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never experimented with an 18-55 using extension tubes so you can blaze the trail! It might work just fine...You'll still need a copy stand or tripod to hold it steady. And you can always upgrade the lens later. I'll be very interested to see what it can do so if you buy it post some pics here...Ray
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 Posted 08/10/2013  03:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome camera, average lens, I would get another lens for it personally. The Canon EF 50mm F/1.8 is very good the F/1.4 is one of the sharpest lenses you can get without paying a ton of money. Though get the best lens you can afford, the lens will out last the camera and all EF Lenses will work on all Canon EOS cameras. The Rebel uses the EFS mount which can accept either EF or EFS lenses, the EFS is designed as a slightly smaller diameter lens barrel that is cost effective. The very best Canon lenses are designated as "L" models for Luxury, there are very few of them that cost under $1000.00 they are worth every penny however. I have the EF100mm F/2.8 macro lens and the auto focus can be controlled from the computer so other than adjusting lights, and placing the coin the whole set-up is hands free and fast if you are shooting the similar coins, ie Silver dollars, when you switch to a another sized coin you may need to adjust the height of the camera to fill the shot better.

Coming from and ex-professional photographer and Canon user.

As Ray mentioned the kit will come with all the cables you need to run the live view mode to a computer screen, you WILL need a VERY sturdy mount or tripod and some lights (most of us use cheap Ikea jansjo lamps under $20.00 for a pair). Depending on where the computer is to the camera set-up you may need a USB extension cord also. I believe Canon only supplies a 5 or 6 foot cable.
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 Posted 08/11/2013  02:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From my experience,albeit limited, zoom lenses (unless internally focusing) are not suitable for coins, as when the camera is pointed downwards the lens self extends. So I would endorse further west-coins statement about finding another lens. I have used extension tubes I found they are a pain. I think you would only get benefit out of them is you were using them to take advantage of a really great ( Karl Zeis for example) small focal length prime lens. Otherwise a dedicated macro lens is the best way to go.

BTW some months ago for a bit of fun I tried to see if my extension tubes would allow me to use a 500mm mirror lens(minimum focus 4 meters) as a macro lens they didn't only reduced the minimum focus to 2 meters.
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 Posted 08/13/2013  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mirror lenses or cardioptric lenses are horrible for shooting macro, I don't even like them for shooting anything really. Though I do have an 11" Celestron telescope I shoot through sometimes! Those lenses even the best are just never very sharp, and they will leave ring like spots on any specular highlights. If you really want to shoot with a large telephoto lens just look into renting a good one. I used the Canon 500mm F/4 USM IS L lens for many years (always rental) still never even came close to paying rental fees that approached the cost of buying that lens at over $10,000! I did purchase a 300mm F/2.8 USM IS L and the 200mm F/1.8 USM L two of the best lenses I ever had, and am still sick over selling the 200mm F/1.8 wouldn't use either for shooting coins though. That little 100mm F/2.8 USM macro isn't the new L model but it still works great, and now the new L verision is out on the market, the prices for the older non L lens used is falling, I've seen them sell for under $400.00 on ebay - not bad for a lens that was about $800 when new.

B&H, Sammy's, Robert's Camera of Indianapolis and KEH are all good, safe, and reliable dealers to use when buying used lenses. I've used them all in the past and been quite happy.
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 Posted 08/14/2013  01:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Westcoin: LOL as I said it was for amusement not for serious macro photography. I carry my cardioptric lense regularly, particularly when walking the dog. Where we walk it is not uncommon to see Red deer, wild boar, beavers and even once a golden jackel( however murphys rule seems to rule take the camera I see very little dont take it and the animals appear). The 500mm lens will catch the shots that my more normal zoom lens would struggle with.

There is no way I could walk the dog carrying a normal 500mm lens. A normal lens of that size would just be too heavy and impossible to hold still without a tripod. The donut bokeh can be annoying but often its just a matter of composing the photograph before taking it...ie: if you line the shot up correctly you can avoid that fault of the lens. That said I suspect the lens works better on the new Sony system cameras better than it ever did on the film cameras it was actually designed for. The in camera image stabilization system makes the 500mm very useable. I would also note that lens was the one that taught me the importance of depth of field and as a result helped me understand macro photography better.
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