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Postumus 'Double' 'Sestertius' My Rear End

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 Posted 08/20/2013  05:10 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Honestly, double sestertius? Its teensy! I found a LAETITIA like this one which weighs nearly 16 grams. Mine comes in at 2.63g +-0.2g and just 19mm across. Is it really a double sestertius which has been reduced to that tiny size? Theres antoniniani bigger than that. If it is a reduced double sestertius, then id be very pleased (this must be one of the last produced).

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 Posted 08/20/2013  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It must be an Ant....like the following

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 Posted 08/20/2013  07:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ive looked it up - its a Dupondius. Still a nice thing - a rebirthed denomination.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So you are pleased Ben?
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Of course. I spent less than $5...uh, £3, and ended up with a pretty nice ancient roman coin from a breakaway emperor, of a mysterious denomination. And I am, of course, a fan of the galley coin. I need to check on my allectus galley - the oil its in has changed colour.

Its going to be my type coin for the emperor. I dont have many Postumus coins and the coin is in great shape (apart from the big clip).

It cost me the price of 6 uncleaned coins, but I have little hope of ever finding one in a lot.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the reverse.
In theory, a dupondius should weigh 25% of the weight of the double sestertius for this reign. With a significant piece missing, getting to a weight of 2.6 grams seems plausible for a bronze radiate coin of Postumus.

From my experience, all of the Postumus radiate coins of silver colour are antoninianii.

Interesting and curious piece, especially for three quid!

The only Roman denomination I can think of, that would be of equivalent scarcity, would be the BINIO. (radiate gold double aureus)
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that is a neat reverse!
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What makes you conclude that a dupondius is the correct denomination? Ants of the period range from about 2.1 to 3.5 gms. Dupondii of the period seem to bottom out at about 7.5 gms.
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hm...well, I was going by the legends. but perhaps it is an ant. Ill have to investigate it again.
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I have just visited the VCOINS site and found a bronze antoninianus. Perhaps this coin has only a trace if silver in it. Perhaps it is barbarous, but the reverse looks good.

Sometimes, a billon coin can look to be composed of bronze if the burial environment is enough to make a billon coin appear to be bronze, but I don't think that is the case here, when you look at the break area on the reverse picture.

I will have to admit that I do not recall ever seeing a bronze radiate of Postumus weighing in the 7 to 9 grammes range, but that does not mean much.

If you go to the VCOINS site, and search 'Postumus dupondius', you get a wide weight range of coins, and it is obvious that a lot of them are barbarous. That helps to confuse the issue somewhat in this thread.

Worth a look for our own education.
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