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New Zealand 1969 Large $1 Cook Bi (Hyphen - No Hyphen)

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 Posted 08/20/2013  07:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone
I have a question about the number of varieties with the New Zealand 1969 large (crown sized) $1 COOK BI - CENTENARY coin. I have heard of 5 ,but have not seen all;

Without hyphen
Without "I" in "BI - CENT"
Short hyphens
Long hyphens
No space between BICENT

Unsure if all exist or not but any help would be awesome thanks


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 Posted 08/24/2013  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...and does anyone know how or why this happened?
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 Posted 08/24/2013  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure. I'm sure I've read about another coin that had a few differences in the edge lettering but I can't remember what it was or where it was struck. Were these dollars struck at The Royal Mint?
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 Posted 08/25/2013  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think, but am not 100% sure, that it was the Royal Australian Mint. Maybe some were inscribed at various different locations and that is why they are different? I don't know, am just guessing.. I am sealing a set of large $1 coins in coin pages 5x5 and my heat sealer only does straight lines 300mm. I want to seal them up but don't want to miss any or go looking for something that doesn't exist!
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08/25/2013 6:45 pm
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 Posted 08/27/2013  06:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the RAM had trouble with the collars and had to make a few? I think this could be the first inscribed edge coin they struck.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about how and why, I don't know enough about how coins are made yet, (but keen to know more!) what do you mean when you say "Maybe the RAM had trouble with the collars and had to make a few?" .. I think you are right about this being the first inscribed edge coin minted by The Royal Australian Mint, but, there was the 1967 large $1 struck for New Zealand by The Royal Mint with an inscribed edge commemorating the introduction of decimal currency to New Zealand. The Royal Australian Mint also (I think) struck the 1969 NZ 50c commemorating the Bi - Centenary of the rediscovery of New Zealand by Captain James Cook.
Please, correct me if I am wrong :)
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Well I was thinking that maybe as it was the first inscribed edge coin they'd struck they didn't have the process perfected and the collars weren't lasting.
I don't know who struck what or where to find that information.
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 Posted 09/18/2013  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is the one haunting my dreams at the moment!
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 Posted 09/27/2013  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://goccf.com/t/153007&whichpage=2#1447751

austrokiwi has been very helpful in determining that there is in fact a variety of this coin that has no space between bi and centenary (BICENTENARY). Below is what I now believe to be confirmed.

BICENTENARY (with no space)
BI CENTENARY (with no hyphen)
BI - CENTENARY (with a short hyphen)
BI - CENTENARY (with a long hyphen)

And I have never seen even a photo but have seen a coin for sale overseas that claims to have B - CENTENARY (missing the 'I' in bi - centenary but I am unsure about the hyphen with this possible variety) the auction or online sale of some kind had a picture of the reverse in its packet but no photo of the rim/edge of the coin.
Confirmation of the 'missing I variety' would be so awesome!
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 Posted 09/27/2013  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
https://goccf.com/t/153007&whichpage=2#1454349

~ How and why did this happen?
~ How many confirmed varieties of this coin are there?
~ How common is each different variety?
~ Does anyone know how many of each variety is out there?
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