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Is this a real 2000 LMC Wide AM, if so, how did this happen so far from 1992? Thanks in advance.  
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Pillar of the Community
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it certainly looks like a Wide AM...cool find..
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Sudz 08/20/2013 5:55 pm
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Thanks for the link Sudz, explains all.
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Bedrock of the Community
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They were not proof dies. They would have a different look to them. There were Wide AM business strike reverses. The 1998-S @ 1999-S Proof close AMs are proof dies. The normal dies for the 1998-S & 1999-S were the wide AMs.
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Rest in Peace
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As usual coop, you have dispelled a common misconception. Thanks. Seems to me that the 2000 WAMs are harder to come by than the 1998s.
Edited by numismo 08/20/2013 8:29 pm
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Cool, This one goes into the save folder. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Oops, I humbly stand corrected... 
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Bedrock of the Community
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No problem George. We all make mistakes.
Ok, We know the 1993 buiness strike cents are close "AM"s so what is the 1993-S Proof reverse look like?
A. Wide "AM" B. Close "AM"
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Pillar of the Community
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1993-S Proof cents were RDV-007 or " Close AM reverses", correct?
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Quote:They were not proof dies. They would have a different look to them. There were Wide AM business strike reverses. The 1998-S @ 1999-S Proof close AMs are proof dies. The normal dies for the 1998-S & 1999-S were the wide AMs. Can I assume ANACS was wrong to label both my 1998 & 2000 errors as a (Type 2 "PROOF" Hub) variety. I was under the assumption that from 1998 to 2000 the Philadelphia Mint used some Reverse Dies that should have been used for the proof's at the San Franscisco Mint, and in turn sent San Franscisco some Circulation Strike Reverse Dies by mistake.  
Edited by Broken-Coin 08/20/2013 11:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Anacs was not incorrect. They were type 2 proof hub reverses. The dies then were also type 2 but not finished like a proof die.
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Quote:They were not proof dies. They would have a different look to them. There were Wide AM business strike reverses. Coop, you are saying the 2000 WAM is not the result of a mix-up with the 2000 Proof die... but rather the result of a mix-up of a RDV-007 business strike die (originally used from 1989 to 1992)? Did they pull out an 8-year old RDV007 business strike die from storage by mistake, or, did they inadvertently use a 2000 Proof hub to create a brand new RDV007 business strike die by mistake?
Edited by coinaki 08/21/2013 02:28 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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They are dies that were hubbed using the hubs intended for making proof dies, but these dies were not sent out for polishing and "frosting" Instead they were put with the regular business strike dies. I would call them unfinished proof dies.
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Wow, this thread really turned out to be quite educational, thanks everybody for setting me straight. I appreciate it!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Indian, and Conder have it correct. They were not proof dies, but the proof ( Wide AM) hubs were used and made a business strike die. The opposite happened with the 1998 & 1999 Proof dies with the business strike ( Close AM) hubs to make Proof dies. My above question on the 1993, Jay has the correct answer. (b) Close AM. All dies for 1993 are Close "AM"s.
Edited by coop 08/21/2013 12:41 pm
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