Help ID Source Of Date For A 1465 Savoy

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harrison2 Pillar of the Community Mexico 1304 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 09:26 am I'm told this is a "1465, Savoy, Amadeus VIII. Silver Quarto (1/4 Grosso)" Any idea where the 1465 attribution comes from? Report this Post to the Staff

rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 12:15 pm Looking at these 2 I suspect 1465 is the latest date. https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...476&lot=5839 http://www.mcsearch.info/record.html?id=829900 Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 1:58 pm Those two coins are not of Amadeus VIII, but Louis, his son and successor, who indeed ruled until 1465. Harrison's coin clearly reads AMEDEVS, so, unless coins were known to be minted posthumously in his name, it shouldn't date from later than 1440. Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 2:54 pm Thank you Phil for correcting my illiteracy Report this Post to the Staff
rooneydog Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 739 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 3:00 pm Hopefully this one is correct. http://www.mcsearch.info/search.htm...iew_mode=1#0 Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 08/22/2013 8:38 pm Never would I call you illiterate, rooneydog! Just looks like harrison was talking to someone who was confusing the coin of the father with the reign of the son. Certainly the design of the coin persisted through 1465. Report this Post to the Staff
harrison2 Pillar of the Community Mexico 1304 Posts	Posted 08/27/2013 12:53 pm I thought I subscribed to this thread...but apparently didn't! What I was tring to figure out was if there was a date on the coin...which there doesn't seem to be...I am looking for coins of this period with some sort of date on them for another thread: How far back can we go? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16837 Posts	Posted 08/27/2013 7:51 pm No, the date on this coin isn't actually marked on it. This is true for most European coins pre-1500. If you haven't seen it yet, this CCF thread has discussion on the earliest appearances of the AD calendar on coins, as well as a very helpful link to a website that names and illustrates as many pre-1500 dated coins as possible, in chronological order. Here, for example, are all the coins bearing AD dates in the range 1454-1469. There are only two reported coin types bearing the date 1465. I'm afraid that for the How Far Back Can We Go thread, you're going to have to rely on non-AD calendars almost exclusively from now on. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
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