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Unknown Really Old Cash Coins

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And these...guys
Coin#1

34 mm x 8.56g

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Coin#2

24 mm x 2.46g


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Coin#3

25 mm x 2.72g

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#1 & 2 look like Pan Liang circa 130's BC S-93
# 3 is Wu Shu circa 118 BC S-257
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Can you confirm I think I have the attribution for the first one...King Qui 221-207 8 gram standard? Ban Liang?
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these I'm not really familiar with, but they are older I think. the first two are probably BC or close to it...the "hour glass" is han dynasty to sui dynasty or so (200-500 ad or so)....and I could be totally wrong.

check out this page, its really good...

http://primaltrek.com/chinesecoins.html
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wow chris awesome resource! I think the first one in early Qin!
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You might be right on the first one, I can only see bits of the legend. The Wu Shu series was made for about seven hundred years starting circa 130's BC. There a small differences in the coins which help determine for what period. It will take a little more research to pin down a closer date.
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Now I am getting really interested in these coins....I think we are feeding a new beast!
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Maybe number 3 is ...

At the left is a distinctive variety of the wu zhu (äº" e"¢) coins.

Unlike most wu zhu, there is a rim around the square hole on the obverse side.

Old Chinese coin catalogs have traditionally attributed this coin to Liu Bei and the Kingdom of Shu (221-263) and it has consequently become known as a "Shu" wu zhu (蜀äº"e"¢).

Recent archaeological discoveries, however, now cast some doubt as to these coins being from the Kingdom of Shu.

The diameter of this coin is 21.7 mm and the weight is 2.3 grams.


I am not sure how strict the weight standards are but I look forward to learning more about these coins...

I think I have been bitten!
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I know absolutely nothing about these, aside that they're ancient and Asian (Chinese?), so all I have to add is this:
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The website of CCF member 'manymore' - Gary - will provide you with valuable information on all ancient Chinese coins.

http://primaltrek.com/chinesecoins.html
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