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First...New to this site. I found this site on line and hoping someone can give me direction. I found this penny while going through some old bottles of coins from my Parents. Most I could find on the internet, but not this one. Please see images. It is in uncirculated condition. JD   |
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looks like what is commonly called a "vise job" where 2 coins were pressed together. You can tell because the writing is backwards.
Edited by bmanofnbc
08/27/2013 8:21 pm
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can you get a clearer shot of the reverse just to be sure?
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 to the CCF Agreed that some clearer photos of the reverse (Back) would help us to help you. David |
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Thanks all, I have tried to get better pictures. Hope this gives you enough to be able to tell. What you are saying makes sense except, when I look at the front, the Liberty wording is on top of the America underneath. You would think that it would press on top. But, I am a novice for sure. What do I know? JD   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks like the coin is bent as well.
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Very hard to get part of a second coin in collar when a coin is struck. Because it came from a jar  with previous posts. If it came from a mint bag  . People buy strange things, but if I found it in a mint bag I'd send it for TPG  . Edited by albertharris
08/27/2013 9:48 pm
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A mint bag is no guarantee that a malformed coin is a minting error. Coins can and do get mashed up in the Mint after they've left the coinage press.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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I agree with the previous answers to your question. Damage like this can be tricky to newcomers and even experienced coin collectors. Keep on looking, though! There are errors out there in the wild! Quote:
A mint bag is no guarantee that a malformed coin is a minting error. Coins can and do get mashed up in the Mint after they've left the coinage press And this is why using the term PMD (Post-Mint Damage)is not best. PSD (Post-Strike Damage) accounts for any type of damage done inside the mint, and anywhere after. |
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Is it still a Mint error if the coin became malformed after the coinage press, but before it left the Mint?
More importantly, is this error type valuable to collectors?
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Would you buy something that is questionable? I wouldn't.
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Is it still a Mint error if the coin became malformed after the coinage press, but before it left the Mint?
How can you even prove that it occurred before the coin left the Mint? The Mint ships bulk coinage to the armored carriers(Brinks, Loomis, Dunbar, etc) for distribution before it ever reaches the public's hands so a coin could have just as easily been damaged by an armored carrier instead of the Mint. Edited by biokemist6
08/28/2013 11:39 am
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I could be wrong, but I believe a genuine indent w/brockage strike in this location would NOT have a raised "LIBER" in LIBERTY visible on this coin. |
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I know how you feel, my first post to this forum turned out to be a fake-error and I had been sure I had something special. ErrorCoins222's advice is spot-on, keep looking and all kinds of wonderful (and valuable) finds will come your way. Error and variety coin hunting is great fun, enjoy! |
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Quote:
Would you buy something that is questionable? I wouldn't. Quote:
How can you even prove that it occurred before the coin left the Mint? The Mint ships bulk coinage to the armored carriers(Brinks, Loomis, Dunbar, etc) for distribution before it ever reaches the public's hands so a coin could have just as easily been damaged by an armored carrier instead of the Mint. Actually, I was asking the question from a newbie's/trainee's perspective; I really don't know the detailed steps involved in the Mint house from the point of coin ejection to shipping out. Yes, I've seen videos of huge bags being filled by counters, and then put on crates and loaded onto trucks. But I was under the assumption that there are other small intermediate steps involved in this whole process. Steps that would be cause for errors. I guess I should've re-phrased my original question: Are there any acknowledged and accepted Mint errors that could be created between coin ejection and shipping out? Edited by coinaki
08/28/2013 8:07 pm
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Nothing good. Damage is damage. Most collectors was an Prime example of a coin. A severve scratch can turn a coin into a cull in most peoples eyes. Finger prints on a coin is undesirable. Coin wrapper damage is damage.
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