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As I mentioned in an earlier post, I collect Victorian silver quarters; I've knocked most of the key dates off my list (1889, 1875, etc), and am starting to turn my attention to the varieties.
I have a 2009 Charlton (63rd Edition), which has a section in the back for Victorian 10 cent varieties. If it exists, could someone let me know which Charlton edition covers Victorian quarters?
I'd also appreciate any help with respect to which varieties I should focus on or ignore. It seems the 1871H Obv. 1 does not exist. Does the 1870 Obv 2 exist in any meaningful quantity? Likewise for the 1872 Obv 1? Which of the 1886 varieties is tougher, the Obv 2, or the 6/7 (or another that I overlooked).
Thanks for your input
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My Charlton lists all previous variety sections in the foreword of its variety section (Nickel Dollars, 2013). So here's your answer: Quote:
Twenty-Five Cent Victoria Varieties: 62nd Edition Edited by nalaberong
09/05/2013 10:11 pm
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The 2008 edition has the Victoria 25cent variety section in the back,a must have for variety collectors,but to be taken with a grain of salt.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I'd focus on the following:
1871: obverse varieties
1880H: N0, W0, N/W
1886: SBE Obv 2, SBE Obv 4, LBE, LBE 6/7, SBE Obv 5 (listed approximately from rarest to most common, in circulated grades)
Once you get those, you could start getting into the different types of 5s on the 1875 and 1885, the different 2s on the 1872, 1888 and 1889 have different 8s and 9s. There are a few years where the A/V variety is known.
It really depends where your interests are, and how far you want to go.
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Despite the listings in Charlton's and Trends,as well as the fact that some have been certified by ICCS I believe if 1870 OBV 2 exist,it's only for specimen coins,and that 1871H OBV1 do not exist nor do 1872H OBV1.
Basically I agree with jg86 on where you should go next.
Since you now have 1871 OBV1&2 you should perhaps look for 1886 OBV2,4 and5 with SBE reverse and OBV5 with LBE reverse
After that it really depends on your interest.Remember that for every SBE reverse die used there is at least one variety for each die used &c.&c.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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And do not overlook the A/V on the 1872 and 1880's they are probably the rarest of the bunch...
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If possibly, I'd like to gauge the relative scarcity of some of these varieties as well. I know it's an inexact science, but can anyone provide a ballpark estimate of what percentage of 1871s are Obv 1? Same for 1886 Obv 2? And for the 3 1880 varieties?
Thanks for the help everyone, you've given a great list for me to go on.
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What grade do you collect coins in? Sometimes coin A is significantly more expensive in G4-F12, but coin B is more expensive in MS60+. I'm not going to have an answer for you on what % of coins are each, but if anyone will, they'll likely need to know this.
Your best bet would probably be to pick up an ICCS population report. It won't be perfect either (the rare coins will appear to be more common than they are), but it's probably the closest estimate you're going to get.
Edited by jg86
09/06/2013 07:43 am
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Nice 1871 Obv 1 coming up in the Bell auction at Coin Expo.... ICCS VF-30
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I try and stay in the F-VF grade range for most of my coins.
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Do you have a physical catalog SPP? I'm not seeing any items on iCollector.
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SPP...you must know of that one personally. I live in the same city as the Bells, and I don't even think the catalogue is back from the printers yet.
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tfred, are you coming back up for Expo again this fall?
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what percentage of 1871s are Obv 1? They are far more common than Trends pricing would lead you to believe. You did the right thing skelly by learning how to identify one,and waiting for a nice unattributed example to come up on ebay. IMO even 50% of Trends is overpaying. In the last seven years I have purchased 22 of them,16 on ebay,3 at coin shows(2 were from 54dollarcoin),2 at dealers and one in a private sale.The most I ever paid was 80% of OBV2 pricing. I don't know how many are listed in the ICCS pop report now,but a few years ago I owned more than ICCS had certified. End of rant for now. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Yes, Ill be there in the same spot with a couple of tables. I love that show!! Even my wife is coming with me this time. Cant wait!!
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