‚¬2100.00 For A 1780 Maria Theresa Thaler Restrike

Sorry I have posted the history of this coin in another thread but here it is again. I am not surprised soome one didn't notice the major feature of this coin (Coin collectors and dealers turn their minds off when they see MTT.

I once sent a photo to Bonhams Uk coin dept of the first example of this type I had and they came back and said "nothing special"( I had provided the history of the coin) I have never forgotten that because they obviously didn't look at the coin or read the background I provided.

Have a look at the obverse photograph: the usual re-strike has the initials S.F. this one has F.S. , You might think this is just a miss-placement of letters error but it is much more than that.

On the standard MTT S.F stands for Shoebl ( Mint Master) and Faby(Mint warden). In 1789 Shoebl died, Faby was promoted and the mints cashier, Stehr, was promoted into Faby's old job. In 1793 the matrices and punches for the MTT were worn out. So Vienna sent new punches and Matrices to Guenzburg( Burgau as Krause calls it). New dies were produced and without permission Faby and Stehr had the mint signature changed to F.S. This was a breach of the Royal ordinance issued re the re-stiking of the MTT. When Vienna found out the dies and coins were ordered destroyed.....a handful of coins escaped destruction.

Very Cool. I notice that the letters show swallow tails only on the lower left obverse and upper left reverse. Coin rotation and slightly non parallel dies would explain that, am I close? I found the article on broad striking and bifurcated (swallow tail) letters that we discussed at the summer seminar. It is in the 1976 BNJ article titled: "Simon's Cromwell crown dies in The Royal Mint Museum and Blondeau's method for the production of lettered edges" by Peter Gaspar.

Cheers,
Joe Paonesa

Wow. very cool. thanks for sharing!