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Bought A Couple Morgans Today, One Doesn't Look Right

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 Posted 09/14/2013  4:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add heckofagator to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Although I'm not sure which one doesn't look right, as far as I can see, they're different. The '21 looks strange to me, but I'm not certain why someone would want to fake a common '21.

I'm pretty new to this and picked up this pair for $60 at a small local coin show today. They are in the dealer's own holders. What do you think? Links are to bigger pics.

Something about the curve in the nose, the hook in the top lip - maybe its just different wear levels. This guys had a LOT of Peace and Morgan dollars, so I'd like to assume he knows what he's doing and I don't, but I'm not sure why I'm uneasy about this....

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21 front and back

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82 front and back

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 Posted 09/14/2013  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollecter97 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks just like my 1921 Morgan I wouldn't be to worried about it
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 Posted 09/14/2013  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Afterimage to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, that one looks good to go. The '21 Morgans were slightly redesigned and do not look exactly like the older Morgans.

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I see nothing wrong with the '21. The "bleeding" downward below the date digits is typical of San Francisco 1921's, caused by the level of die wear. They tend to seem more "deeply" struck, as well; I can pretty reliably tell a 1921-S Morgan without looking at the date or mint mark.
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thanks gang - I feel a bit better now.

These prob weren't a steal, hopefully not horrible pricewise, but I just wanted to bring something home to put in the new Dansco album. I guess I freaked myself out a bit comparing them.
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Looks ok to this oldtimer ... Did you check the 1882 to see if it's an O/S variety?
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The 1921 has a different design. They changed a few things after the 17 year halt.

With that said, they both look real and they are both cleaned. You overpaid by about $20 imho.
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$20 non cull morgans in similar condition? Honestly, please tell me where.

I do want to learn a bit more about how to spot cleaned coins and grading these Morgans and Peaces.

It doesn't appear to be a O/S - from what I read just now, you'll see a diagonal line through the O and with my 30x loupe, I'm not seeing it. But thanks for the tip on that one.

I'm just really looking for AU/BU examples to put in a Dansco date book. I started out at the show by trying to find some cheaper NGC/PCGS slabbed coins, but the lowest I found there was $55.
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$40 is usually the ideal price but you did good I guess. Cleaning in both would drive down the price a bit but there is always value with the silver content.
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Sorry to say they do look cleaned.

I bought a MS-63 Morgan for 70 from my dealer. They aren't really that much. You could try to save up a little.
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Yeah, I'd like to get an eye for cleaned coins for sure. Until then, I'm ok to use them as place holders in the album. But yeah, I guess sticking with slabbed coins would be a bit safer.
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Just don't think that those grades on the Brand X slabs are correct.
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