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Do I Have A 1922 Peace Matte/Satin High Relief Proof?

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 Posted 09/29/2013  11:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay, maybe it's not, maybe it is, but it's definitely 'different.'

I've got one of my 1922 Peace dollars that's Unc. (or close as possible) and I've done a side by side with the Peace dollar in question.

I need opinions! This is really exciting!

The pictures are below, they go in order of 1. Normal 2. Proof? 3. Normal 4. Proof? 5. Normal, and so on.


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 Posted 09/29/2013  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's certainly HAMMERED as far as the strike goes...

My advice, go find some hi res shots with die markers, and cross compare them. The harsh cleaning your coin has received may make that difficult. Can we also get shots of the full coin? The rims really tell the story with proofs.
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Absolutely not. There are a handful of those proofs known on Earth (only 10 were struck and all are accounted for) and there were tens of millions of business strikes. You have a polished business strike worth about $20.

It's nice to dream though!
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 Posted 09/30/2013  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe...but...the differences, and everything is raised! Could someone provide a link to a good source?
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 Posted 09/30/2013  12:16 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's 1 of the 10 struck. 1 has been certified PR25, the other 9 are all 60 or better. This one estimated at PR65 and well over $100,000 today.


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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yeah, now that someone posted a pic, no way homie. Sorry!
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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, homie, what about the other one? The Matte? Not the Satin? Any good resources?
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Try googling around, check VAMWorld, see if they have any details on the '22 proofs? I'm working or I'd help more.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, if it's anything it's the "Low Relief Satin Proof" which are just as rare...
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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FadeToBlack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said earlier, a full straight-on shot would do wonders, the rims tell the story with proofs. You're not going to have a proof without squared, flat rims.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm still not sure though...Should I just send it in to PCGS?
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 Posted 09/30/2013  01:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LincolnGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
May as well send it in since you already have your mind made up that its a proof.
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 Posted 09/30/2013  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redifin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if it's not, if it grades high it's worth lots
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It's been polished the best you could hope for is a details grade. The shipping alone would cost more than what its worth, not to mention the grading fees.
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Yeah, not worth grading unless you're 100% sure it's a proof.
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I'm 100% sure it's not been polished. I've just gotten a friend of mine (who's been doing this for 40 years) to look at it. He says it's not a proof, but it's been struck much stronger and harder than a normal business strike. Says there's no polish abrasions and the profile/lettering is much higher than normal. I'll let all know if it grades well...thanks.
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