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 Posted 10/03/2013  4:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mrm143 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all, newbie here, but hopefully will be visiting more often as I have started getting into the coin buying/selling market
My name is Matt

I have an 1819 Large cent here, Large date, and wondering if this is the 9 over 8 variety

I read the forums, and on the back the wreath ends halfway through the S and the bottom left corner of the F as well

Please help and thanks again

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Yes it ts, the position of the leaf below the second S in STATES is diagnostic.
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Cool LC!
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 Posted 10/04/2013  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Matt

Nice large cent. There are lots of us copper nuts here. I look forward to seeing more posts from you.
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Welcome...Very nice first post!

So many large cent varieties, so little time (and $$$)
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What does diagnostic mean, as far as the S goes?
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What does diagnostic mean, as far as the S goes?


Multiple dies were used each year and there are differences in alignment that allow us to identify the specific variety number for example N-1 through N-10 in the 1819 cents. Diagnostics are the facts that allow us to identify the specific dies used to produce the coin. On the obverse its the alignment of the stars to the dentils (lines along the edge). On the reverse its how the letters align to the leafs. The D of United, second S of states, F of OF, and C of America. There are other diagnostics that help identify the variety but these are the basic ones.
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So this would be an N1?
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So this would be an N1?


Yes, N-1 Rarity 1 (Common)
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Welcome, Matt. Astute find there, you made. I've long been partial to the overdates; and, especially so in the large cent series. They make for a presentable mini-set of sorts. Happy hunting!
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Thanks everyone...
I am going to be listing for sale, so if anyone is interested, I am going to go ebay
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Not 100% sure on the rules, but coin is on ebay, and if given the OK, I will list the item #
Don't want to step on any toes, I just got here LOL
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As cipster said every die has certain features or diagnostics which are used to identify the particular die. But as I was using the term, it meant that the position of the point of the leaf below the second S ONLY appears on the N-1 variety and that positioning specifically identifies, or is diagnostic of the N-1 1819/8 variety. Once you see that positioning you are done and you don't have to check any further to identify the variety.
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