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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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Hello guys, I bought a denarius of Brutus, which I think looks genuine but I need your look at this coin as well.. especially at the vase, is the handle correct? Never seen such handle with dots. If not, I can still cancel the deal Weight is 3,75 grams   Edited by Dutchgulden 10/09/2013 04:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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No idea, I really, really hope it is real dutch.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
Sorry Dutch but I don't like this coin - I'll stick my neck out and go as far as to say I'm convinced its a fake.
A pretty good fake but a fake all the same.
Wait for more opinions before you do anything, others know more than I do but I think this might be a deal your better off getting out of.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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A quick review of prior CNG sales showed no examples with the dotted handle ewer-- except for this type, which is a different obverse.  Perhaps a fantasy reproduction?
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
1204 Posts |
The dotted handle put me in doubt as well.. Ill cancel the deal then, it was worth the try :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3444 Posts |
An excellent example of why I walked away from high grade silver coins 25 years ago. I find it much too difficult to judge these 'questionable' coins. What does seem to stand out though is the letter N and the 4 V's. They look very neatly executed. Probably too neatly done. Where most of the other letters have a child on a blackboard type of style these two letters are almost perfect. Worst of all when we find a coin like this we all really want it to be real because ........ WE WANT ONE !
Coins like this scare the heck out of me.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: Coins like this scare the heck out of me. I fully agree, I'd love one but would only buy from a respected and long standing bricks and mortar seller - unfortunately that 'warm-feeling' carries a very high price tag and is more than I'm happy to spend. The lettering is suspect, the dotted handle didn't even occur to me as a problem but to me the coin looks sterile, style wise. The wear between 6 and 11 o'clock in the first picture also looks quite recent to me.
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Moderator
 United States
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I agree with the others, it does look right at all.
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
1204 Posts |
Thank you all..cancelled the deal. Perhaps I should stay away from high grades as well although I was VERY lucky with the genuine Augustus denarius
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
Here is the final nail in the coffin (also ammunition to use against the seller if you need it to back up you leaving the deal)  FAC fake reports - I think its a die match, yours is a deliberately defaced 'silver' version of this coin. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fa...hp?pos=-8770 Its good that your vigilant in checking your purchases 
Edited by bobbyhelmet 10/09/2013 7:13 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
Your original coin is 100% fake - we have the die match now to prove it beyond question.
At a glance your second coin looks fine to me but I must stress that its only at a glance. I don't intend to spend a couple of hours researching and checking a coin that nobody is actively trying to buy.
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Pillar of the Community
 Netherlands
1204 Posts |
Thirst of all I want to thank you for your help and match, later on I received this link wich I wanted to share with you which proves its not totally fantasy piece. I think youre right its fake :'( about the second one: of course I'm willing to buy it unless its fake
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: Thirst of all I want to thank you for your help and match My pleasure, as a community its a great thing if we can help each other out and keep the fakes out of our collections 
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