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New Member
Italy
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Is my coin real? I have seen a few similar but Roma holding victory and spear on the obverse not quite like this. Has this been in the ground?   Similar example but very different Rome holding spear: RIC 190 sear5 #2331 Vespasian AE Sestertius. 71 AD. IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M TR P P P COS III, laureate head right / ROMA S-C, Roma standing left, holding Victory and spear. Cohen 419. Would be truly grateful for any knowledgeable thoughts. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
946 Posts |
The reverse especially looks odd, the way the edge is machined into a rim.
TOURIST FAKE.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
36878 Posts |
Doesn't look genuine to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
mineallmine:  to the CCF! Reverse style looks odd. Obverse style OK. The edge as seen fron the reverse side has an upturned lip, all the way around. I have both a genuine example, and a few fakes of sestertii of Vespasian, so fairly easy for me to pick if this one is genuine or not. I would say 'tourist copy', unfortunately. |
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Moderator
 United States
23731 Posts |
to the community. Sadly I agree with the others, it's a tourist copy. |
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New Member
 Italy
5 Posts |
Wow! So many replies! Thank you, for such a warm welcome as well. Sounds like there is no hope, judging by the experience of the posters -- couldn't we just pretend? :) Must be a very old fake with some worth in that, I can trace it back to the nineteen fifties at least because of the collection it was in, when do the first tourist fakes appear?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
The history of coin counterfeiting is almost as long as the history of coins, right back into ancient times.
Nothing wrong with starting a genuine ancient coin collection for yourself. We will always be here, ready to help you.
It is possible to buy a reasonable small Roman bronze coin for as little as $5 to $10, and some reasonably nice Roman silver coins for as little $30.
A genuine sestertius of Vespasian similar to the one here may cost around $150.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Wow! So many replies! Thank you, for such a warm welcome as well. Sounds like there is no hope, judging by the experience of the posters -- couldn't we just pretend? :) ~mineallmine Well you got a reply from me, which more or less described what can be seen and a Verbatim reply by "sel_69I". Yep, there is not hope in passing this off as genuine, not to us anyway. If I had to have that I'd use it as a Paperweight. |
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New Member
Italy
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While I thought it was real I was in total awe of it, similar to the presumably fake piece of eight I am hoping for info on in my other post. Interestingly after seeing some real ones I realize that anything in my reach price-wise has far less detail, and so I am beginning to conclude that it is better to own a beautiful fake than an ugly real. The feeling I have now for this coin is strangely only a little changed, from total awe to awe: I want to know more, to find out how old a fake it is and cherish it as a fake. The very fact that it had me re-exhuming my knowledge of Roman history and learning much about coins in the process lends value in itself. However if I found out it is very recent fake (say middle of last century) I may be heartbroken. There is more beauty is in what is unknown. One of my many real coins (of course much more recent) is from the Regno Lombardo-Veneto (1820s), and apparently is as common as muck and worth very little (it would also 'grade' low) yet to me it holds plenty of value because of the local history connection.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with collecting fakes
PROVIDED THAT
they are sold to you as fakes.
They are an excellent way of providing a self education in learning how to spot them.
Most of my fake ancient coins have come by way of job lots out of respected public auctions.
The study of Roman coins provide a genuine hardware reality in making dry Roman history become real.
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New Member
Canada
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are these ones real? I don't see any obvious "rim"   |
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Pillar of the Community
Italy
1790 Posts |
eaglebusa I am afraid yours is fake as well. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Moderator
United States
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eaglebusa to the community I agree with the others a fake. |
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Posted 10/11/2013 9:30 pm
