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I Think I Just Bought Something From Masis

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 Posted 10/16/2013  2:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I spotted a Philip I SAECVLARES for just 19 squids and then looked about and the seller also had an Otacilia Severa with the legend 'MILLIARVM SAECVLVM' (roughly, 1000 year secular games) and an uninscribed cippus.

Thats the copper cippus done with..im wondering how thick the patina is, it looks pretty fragile (although of good colour) and may be worth 'smoothing' a bit or dealing with the flaking parts.

Philip I SAECVLARES, £19:
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Otacilia Severa, MILLIARVM SAECVLVM, £12 (a lot more than id like, but the philip was pretty cheap):
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 Posted 10/16/2013  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those definitely look like Masis pictures ^_^

He is tavium_numismatics on ebay.
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 Posted 10/16/2013  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, definitely from Masis then! I'm getting a small pile of these SAECVLARES now...
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 Posted 10/16/2013  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
more "cos iii" pilars, those are pretty cool ben.

so what does the "cos iii" mean? year 3? some of the denari I picked up recently have "cos iii and iiii" on them.
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 Posted 10/16/2013  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cos III refers to the regnal year... it means that Philip had been emperor for 3 years. This year corresponds to 1000AUC. Well...I say emperor, it actually means Consul, a different office, but in practice it doesn't make a difference by this period.

On your denarii it will be the regnal year of that emperor (or empress consort) - you should be able to get it pretty close to the minting date using this system (you can sometimes get closer than +-0.5 years when new titles are added or commemoratives are issued...). But be warned...you have to see the first letter of the next word to be sure - a lot of designs appear again with very similar dies but for the next regnal year.
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 Posted 10/18/2013  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Ben,

Thank you for your purchases.

Regarding the As, the Patina is tough, with some scuffs as seen in the photos.
Also no "flakiness".
I do not think it can be "improved", with Wax, for example, but then, I do not own it now.
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 Posted 10/18/2013  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copper is nice and not at all flakey. I waxed it to give it a bit more protection anyway. The silver one had some gunk adhered to it on the obverse which you can see on the pictures which came off easily. Looks to be a polishing compound. The blank cippus is really rough but fills the hole.

All together, a very good purchase at a really good price. Thanks Masis!

Heres all my Cippuses now:

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 Posted 10/18/2013  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad they arrived promptly and most of all, you like them.


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The silver one had some gunk adhered to it on the obverse which you can see on the pictures which came off easily. Looks to be a polishing compound.


That brown "dusty" stuff I left on it, as bought.
I prefer to do this with coins, unless it is making the coin un-attributable, then I leave the dusty stuff on.

I don't think the person I bought it from polished it with a compound either.

You are buidling a really good collection.
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 Posted 10/18/2013  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are the original links to them:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/20097563552....m1561.l2649
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/20097431046....m1561.l2649
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Oh yes, I noticed Ben you are currently 10 days behind in leaving Feedback for your Sellers, the last one you left was on the 8th. What must they be thinking?
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 Posted 11/20/2013  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Though no Feedback has been left since you received the Philip I, Billon Antoninianus, I guess you must be happy with it, since you are reselling it.
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 Posted 11/20/2013  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ben, you left no feedback? Shame on you :)
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 Posted 11/20/2013  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Triskeles Auctions to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whatever you do, please DON'T smooth it! Smoothing is a big no-no that too many people ignore. :(

Neat-o coins!

By the way, COS III refers to Philip I's third consulship, not for three years as consul or, as Ben pointed out, not his third regnal year either. Your coins were part of Philip's 10 emission, so they were struck in A.D. 249.

Best,
John
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 Posted 11/21/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I remember last year I had a reseller buy a coin from me, he left Feedback only when he sold the coin. Lame.

This year I had one reseller buy a Tetrarch AE Radiate at £4.99.
Not getting any Feedback from him, I checked his profile and saw he had it for sale.
He took it and a few other Roman LRB's he'd bought to a "Jewellers" to get them polished (with Boot polish it looked) and he waffled in his listing as if doing this was a positive, stripping coins of their Patina.
I think it also sold for £4.99 (before Fees).

It is standard for me, and ought to be for most ebay sellers, to notify the Buyer by the message system, when their item is Dispatched.
Up until that reseller bought from me, he never did that, so then he must have thought "that's a good idea" and added that waffle info to his listing "message sent on dispatch" and "iam a good seller".

(Not sure what "iam" is , unless he meant a Yam, and as part of an Equal Opportunities Policy he hired a Root Vegetable to help out in his sales.)

On a serious note, Feedback, as far as ebay is concerned, is official closure on a transaction.
As it stands, as far as they are concerned, the coins Ben bought could still be deemd by them as "not received".

Of course, I do not think there is any ebay seller who has been given Feedback for every single item they have sold.
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 Posted 11/21/2013  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have always provided feedback in sales and buys.

The coin he is selling looks different then the same coin you sold him, why the color difference?
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 Posted 11/21/2013  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really need to get one of these Secular Games commemoratives. I have wanted one for a long time but they always seem to elude me.

Of the four coins I would want the bottom left....

Great collection BB. If you ever want to get rid of one or you see a decent one for a "few quid," hook a brotha' up.
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 Posted 11/23/2013  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Masis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The coin he is selling looks different then the same coin you sold him, why the color difference?~stampvirgin


As stated in the 6th post:


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the silver one had some gunk adhered to it on the obverse which you can see on the pictures which came off easily.~BenByfield


So that might answer your question.

Also the difference in natural and artificial light.


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Great collection BB. If you ever want to get rid of one or you see a decent one for a "few quid," hook a brotha' up.~Ancientnoob


As stated in the 9th post, the coin is up for auction.

Anyone got any more questions on what has already been stated?

Then lets allow this Post sink away into the depths of the "Elysium Fields" of old posts, so Ben can start posting again in this Thread.
It is boring without him.
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