Help With A 1802 Concordia Res Parvae Cres[c] Made Into A B

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ntm23 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 10/20/2013 5:55 pm Hi, I found this in a box lot and do have some info about the coin but this was made with 2 coins into a hinged box, maybe for pills. It is handmade and marked sterling. I know it's from the Netherlands and since it has been made into something else I am wondering if you thought this had any value above what the silver is. Any thoughts and info would be great. Obverse: Standing armored knight, crowned shield by legs Obverse Legend: MO:NO:ARG:PRO:CONFOE:BELG:TRAI Reverse: Crowned arms divides date Reverse Legend: CONCORDIA RES PARVAE CRES -Made-Into-A-B" class="userimg" style="image-orientation: from-image !important; max-width:80%;height:auto" name="img" src="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/ntm23/20131021_result.jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'> -Made-Into-A-B" class="userimg" style="image-orientation: from-image !important; max-width:80%;height:auto" name="img" src="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/ntm23/20131021_result2.jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'> -Made-Into-A-B" class="userimg" style="image-orientation: from-image !important; max-width:80%;height:auto" name="img" src="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/ntm23/20131021_IMG_8082_opt.jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'> * Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16829 Posts	Posted 10/20/2013 7:12 pm Hello and welcome. I hope we can help. While "box coins" are a popular collectable item in some quarters, I am not entirely convinced that this particular box coin was made from genuine coins. The overall style and quality of the artwork does not match what I see on genuine Batavian Republic silver ducats. I believe it is a replica, specifically made for being turned into a box. What do the little stamps inside the lid say? They presumably give an indication of where and when it was made. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
ntm23 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 10/20/2013 7:25 pm It says handmade, Sterling and there is an initial "M"also a number 10. Thank you for your help. -Made-Into-A-B" class="userimg" style="image-orientation: from-image !important; max-width:80%;height:auto" name="img" src="http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/uploaded/ntm23/20131021_IMG_8115.jpg" border="0" style='cursor:default' onClick='doimage(this,event)'> Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16829 Posts	Posted 10/20/2013 8:58 pm Hmmm. Made in an English-speaking country, but not England itself (where the making of silver objects like this requires specific hallmarks, which this piece lacks). So presumably it is of American origin. "Sterling" means sterling silver, .925 fine. This is a higher fineness that the genuine coins ought to be; another indicator that the coins it was made from were not genuine ducats. The use of a stamp saying "handmade" also tells me that this was made after such items were likely to be mass-produced by machine. Probably post-WWII, certainly post-WWI. This American hallmarks webpage says that the ornate-letter-M-in-a-triple-cartouche hallmark was used by the William B. Meyers Company, a New Jersey based maker of, amongst other things, "quality antique reproductions" in the early to mid 20th century. I don't know if any other American company has used this same ornate-M symbol, but this seems to be a excellent match for this object. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
ntm23 New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 10/20/2013 9:38 pm Thank you so much for your help! Report this Post to the Staff
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