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 Posted 12/26/2013  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should I move the location of my lights?

In the last three sets of pictures, they were at 4 and 10.
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 Posted 12/27/2013  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure if I will be able to do much better than this. I am still absolutely blown away by the fact that changing my lighting has improved my pictures tenfold.

I am always open to suggestions though. What could be improved?

(Looking at the pictures again, I think the yellow balance is still off a bit)

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That's Better! Not as yellow.

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 Posted 12/29/2013  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Added some tissue paper to diffuse the light a bit.

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 Posted 12/29/2013  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm surprised at the quality of the details in these pics. I was not expecting good sharpness in the closeup, but it's there. That said, the biggest problem I see is the images seem to be generally over-exposed. Do you have any control over exposure with the phone camera app? What you're looking for is to keep any highlights from over-exposing, and to do this you need to make a faster shutter speed, a smaller aperture (larger f-number), smaller ISO, etc. You may try even more diffusion to help with this. Move the tissue farther from the light (make a bigger ball) and you will increase your diffusion level. Keeping it really close to the light minimizes the effective diffusion...Ray
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Thanks Ray,

There's no way to change aperture, shutter speed or ISO. I will adjust the tissue paper so it's a bit farther away from the lights, and post the results.

I am also going to try and use the "HDR" feature on the phone.

http://www.macworld.com/article/115...eiphone.html
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I adjusted the tissue paper, so that it's farther from the lights.

Here is the difference between HDR and Regular pictures, using the Apple Camera App.

I think I will use HDR from now on, for coin photography. The lighting seems a lot less harsh.

These are Unedited pictures (Well, I cropped them slightly).

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Here are the edited HDR Pictures.

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This is my second set of HDR Pictures.

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That's better from exposure perspective, with highlights not so blown-out. I'd bet a little more diffusion, and a little levels adjustment, and you'll be there...Ray
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Thanks Ray,

I'll admit, I don't have any experience with changing the Levels. Here are the options available in GIMP.

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 Posted 12/31/2013  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone Like Macro Photography? iPhone + 10x Loupe.

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I had a really hard time with the toning, and it's not even close. I will need to practice some specific lighting techniques for Macro shots (Although, it's not about the toning with such close-up shots).

Here is what the toning should look like.

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 Posted 12/31/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You realize this is simply ludicrous from a phone camera, don't you?

Toning is going to be especially difficult in detail imaging due to the inherent lighting compromises. No matter - toning isn't why you're creating those. Color is best illuminated axially, but I don't know if you're getting sufficient relief from the coin for an axial setup.
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You realize this is simply ludicrous from a phone camera, don't you?

Yep! I think that's why I keep trying to push the envelope.

Although, I really don't know how much more I can do. The phone isn't even in a tripod, I'm just sitting it on top of a box, and holding a 10x loupe in front of the lens.

I thought about axial lighting, after reading this thread:
https://goccf.com/t/125365
But, with such subtle toning, I would just end up washing out the luster for a bit of colour around the rim.

Also, Happy New Year!

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I would think any camera (phone, P&S, MILC, DSLR, whatever) can take advantage of lens stacking, and the final result will be defined more by the quality of the objective lens (10x loupe in this case) than the camera.
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