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 Posted 10/28/2013  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the Forums. The posts from the previous members are wise. If you're new and green to Precious Metals investing & storing I suggest reading and researching as much as you can in terms of how the price of Gold and Silver works both short and long term from a technical/fundamental/historical perspective. I'm not saying don't go out and buy a 1/10th or 1/4 tomorrow, but understand how the spot $ price works in both domestic & international markets. I've enjoyed talking to people at TX coin shows if you are in such an area that has reasonable local access. I've been to a lot of coin shows, and these folks share a lot of advice, lessons, wisdom and of course, opinions. Youtube seems to also have some interesting opinions from promoters and detractors. Best of luck.
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 Posted 10/30/2013  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pawpaw34 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know I wasn't the original poster. But I do appreciate all the insight all of you have given. Thanks.
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 Posted 10/30/2013  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/31/2013  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I figured I would put in my Two Cents here...
There has been a lot of good advice and some very interesting opinions on this thread so far..
If you're new to gold or PM investing my first question for you is.. Why are you investing in gold?

In my opinion gold is used as a preservation of wealth and a hedge against a poor economy. If you don't exactly have a lot of wealth to begin with then gold isn't your best investment option.. there are others much better out there. If you believe that the economy is troubled and we're in for a rough time... then YES gold would be a good idea regardless of your financial status.

As for how much to buy... well that would depend on your financial situation... some here have talked about 1/10ths and how they're very liquid, which is true but there's also a premium associated with fractionals. 1 oz gold rounds/coins/bars carry the smallest amount of premium. Sure as someone said if you buy 100 oz bars you're eliminating the premium ... but in all honesty I don't run in those circles and never will. I prefer buying 1 and 5 oz bars or coins.

The next question often brought up is how often or frequently should one buy? That also is dependant on your finances, age and your opinion of the economy. Typical financial planners suggest that gold should have no more than 10% of your portfolio. If you're young I would definetely agree with this.. there's better places you can put your money to work for you. As you get older you may wish to diversify into more secured assets like dividend yeilding stocks, bonds, and gold. The thing I like is that .999 is exempt from capital gains.. so I like to buy it for the future so I don't have to cash out as much of my RRSP's or stocks and worry about incurring a large amount of capital gains taxes.

Personally I can only afford to buy once or twice a year.. if you can buy more frequently than that, then you will be able to take advantage of better dollar cost averaging techniques and not worry so much about any swings in the market. Personally I try to take advantage of any market dips for when I buy to add to my stack but I have a certain date marked on my calandar where I'm committed to purchase.

My best advice to you is... find a reputable dealer. There is a TONNE of fakes out there and if you don't know what you're doing you can really get burned bad!

Do a lot of reading... ask a lot of questions... then go get some shiney and tell us all about it...

Good luck!
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 Posted 10/31/2013  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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... do you believe 1/4 to 1 ounce gold coins are a wise investment?


ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Your key word is "invest".

Any coin has several premiums attached.
There's the seller's mark-up.
And the mark-up is about the same dollar amount no matter what the coin's size is.
Thus the percentage mark-up is much higher for smaller pieces.
In other words the seller expends the same amount of time and energy on a ΒΌ oz item as a 1 oz item so he charges the same absolute handling charge.

Then there is the cost of manufacturing.
Someone paid to have the planchets made, the dies produced and the striking procedure performed.
You will have to cover all those costs.
PLUS
If the coins are dated there most likely be a numismatic premium.

IF you want to invest in gold stick to plain bars.
No fancy designs.
All you should see is the fineness (.9999, nothing less) and maybe the manufacturer's name.
They ain't pretty but for investment purposes you don't want to pay for pretty.
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 Posted 11/01/2013  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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All you should see is the fineness (.9999, nothing less) and maybe the manufacturer's name. They ain't pretty but for investment purposes you don't want to pay for pretty.


I agree with this perspective for beginners or people looking to build their weight in silver or gold first, than worry about the cosmetic looks of the metal itself. After hitting a goal of 2,000 oz's I started to dabble in the pretty silver bullion/coins/numismatics etc. I do however like collecting bullion with name brands vs generic because it does make it easier to sell in the future, it's popular, it has a premium for collectors or ebay and I like it. Most local dealers don't care unless it's an ASE / Maple / Panda which are nice in itself. Gimme Johnson Matthey & Engelhard all day!

For gold, it is the same thing. It has to be .9999 24k (nothing less) which is why I stack the Buffalos, Maples, Pandas, Pamps, Perth, Scotia Bank & Credit Suisse..the list goes on. The common denominator is .9999 24k - that's all I care about.
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