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How Far Back Can We Go? Second Edition! Ended At 1492 Waiting On 1491

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Canada 1871 Dime

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France - last year of Empereor Napoleon III's reign. 1870 5-franc coin with a Paris (A) mint mark:

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For France, 1870 certainly was a year of turmoil. It started the year as the French Empire under Napoleon III. After the defeat in the short Franco-Prussian war, Napoleon III was ousted and left in exile. It meant the start of the third republic.

Translated into coinage, that implies a flurry of silver 5 Francs coins, starting with the 1870 imperial 5 Francs, featuring Napoleon III, shown by NumisRob above. http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1184.html
Next, a failed attempt to bring his (underaged) son to power as Napoleon IV (very rare). Subsequently, the third republic couldn't decide on what design to choose. The Ceres design (dating from the second republic and used on smaller denominations) has been tried in two versions: with the national motto "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité" (only in 1870):
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1186.html
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and without the motto (in 1870 and 1871):
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1185.html
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Ultimately the 'classic design' with the Hercules group also was minted. That design would be continued.

Only the French Empire 'Napoleon III' 5 Francs is very common. The one without the motto is pretty tough; its Bordeaux (K) issue is less rare (544 K minted). The 5 Francs with the motto is more common (1.18 M minted in Paris). Finally the design with the Hercules group: http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1187.html also was low mintage (261 K), making 1870 a key year.
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Sarawak 1 cent

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UK penny 1870

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And on to 1870:

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It's odd, some years I struggle to find something worth posting, but 1870 has plenty

Honduras 1 real 1870

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And an unadopted pattern

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and the 1st year of the German Empire

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1870 Great Britain Half Penny

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1869 5C RPD FS-1305 (FS-0056) PCGS MS62
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One of my more interesting coins--just the interesting side.
Uruguay 1869 4 Centisimos--nice doubled die too!

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1869 3CN

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The smallest Belgian coin for 1869. One Centime (copper, 2g). In other countries of the Latin Monetary Union, the weight of copper coins had been reduced. Tbe Belgian mint chose to replace the larger coppers and the smallest silver (20 ct) by nickel-copper coinage (a primary for that time). The size and weight of the small coppers was left unchanged.

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(one of the few not completely worn out)
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1869 Queen Victoria bun penny - the key date of the series. The official mintage figure is 2,580,480, but it's thought that most of those bore the previous year's date:

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I omitted posting my Belgian 5 Francs for 1870 (it's a pretty common one). So I feel I owe you the 1869, equally common with over 12.6 M minted.

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