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How Far Back Can We Go? Second Edition! Ended At 1492 Waiting On 1491

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1663, my favorite thaler from the German States, Brunswick-Luneburg-Celle, minted in Clausthal and distinguished by the mint master's initials LW, for Lippold Weber.


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That is one beautiful Thaler 'jgenn', can fully understand that it is your favourite.
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1663

Poland
30 Groszy = 4 Silbergroschen = 1 Zloty 1663AT
gulden, 1/3 thaler, Tympf
Ruler : Johan Casimir II of Poland (1609-1668)
Initials ICR (Ioan Casimir Rex)
MONET:NOV:ARG:REG:POL
MONETA NOVA ARGENTEA REGIS POLONIAE
new silver money of the kingdom of Poland
DAT:PRETIVM:SERVATA:SALVS:POTIORQ3:METALLO.EST
the patriotic desire to save is more important than the metal
Posen mint
centershield : coat of armsof the Waza dynasty (sheaf of grain)
mintmaster : Andreas Timpf (AT)
km# 120
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1 penny
Netherlands
1663
West Friesland
WEST FRISIAE 1663
DEVS.FORTI.ET.SP.NOS
DEUS FORTITUDO ET SPES NOSTRA
God is our strength and hope
V.75.7 & V.212.4 - PW 3003 KM # 29
mintmaster: Gerrit van Romondt
mintmark: flower / rose
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Should look like this (not mine):
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2 pence
Scotland
ND (1663)
Charles II of Scotland (1660-1685)
CAR.D.G.SCOT.ANG.FRA.ET.HIB.R.
CAROLUS DEI GRATIA SCOTLAND ANGLIAE FRANCIAE ET HIBERNAE REX
Charles, by Gods grace, king van Scotland, England, France en Ireland
NEMO ME IMPUN LACESSIT
NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSIT
Nobody provokes me unpunished
KM# 100
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I haven't contributed to this thread for a while, but here goes:

England - Charles II crown 1662 (first milled issue:. The rose below the bust indicates silver from the West of England.

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This on first glance is a 1662 schilling minted for Riga in Latvia in the name of Christina of Sweden, however it is copper not silver.

It is in fact a Romanian coin - counterfeits were made in Suceava by Titus Livius Boratini (between 1661-1663), during the reign of Istratie Dabija (1661-1665) and probably this activity was continued by the following rulers of Moldavia - " Gheorghe Duca (1665-1666, 1668-1672 and 1678-1683) and Ilias Alexandru (1666-1668). The schillings minted in Suceava are struck in copper alloy, some of them having traces of silvering, with a poor technical execution, with wrong legends etc. see http://romaniancoins.ancients.info/falsuri.htm for more

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1662, here's my Crown. This variety does not have the rose beneath the bust.

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Another one of those famous solidi from John II Casimir, this time from Poland:

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Solidus 1661 Poland
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1661-1722
I promised to wait until there is a coin with a fixed date before posting a coin with no date.

No date, minted from 1661/2 till 1722
Emperor Kang-shi (or variant):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangxi_Emperor
obv : K'ang-hsi T'ung-pao
rev : Boo-Ciowan, mint : Hu-Pu board of revenu

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and a modern replica:
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This coin was said to be a luck bringer: (I found it somewhere on internet, but I can not remeber where)
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A Chinese Coin with the Powers of a Charm
This is an example of an official Qing (Ch'ing) Dynasty minted coin, meant for general circulation, but which was immediately considered to have the powers of a charm. In the year 1713 AD, to celebrate the 60th birthday of Emperor Sheng Zu (Kang Xi), this special issue kang xi tong bao (康熙e宝) coin was cast with a bronze of a golden color. A 60th birthday is considered a major event in China. In honor of this milestone, the Chinese character xi (熙), which is located below the square hole, was written slightly differently. The character would normally have a vertical line at its left. Also, the part of the character normally written as (臣) has the center written as a (口) instead. Finally, the upper left part of the tong (e) character, located to the right of the square hole, has only one dot instead of the usual two.
There are several stories connected with this coin that have been passed down for the last 300 years which have given this coin the power of a charm. The stories have turned out to be historically false but continue to be believed. The different versions of the story basically state that the bronze used in the casting of this coin came from the melting down of gold statues of the eighteen disciples of the Buddha. These disciples were called lohan (luohan 罗汉) in Chinese. Because the metal used to cast the coins was believed to be directly associated with these disciples of Buddha, the coin is believed to have special powers and is usually referred to as the lohan coin or arhat money.
Because of its special charm qualities, these coins were given to children in olden times as lunar New Year money (yasuiqian ).
These coins were also considered to represent good luck because they commemorated a reign lasting for sixty years which is a complete cycle of the traditional Chinese calendar and thus symbolic of a long life.
Traditionally, these coins also acted as a keepsake or pledge of love between a man and a woman. Some women would even wear one of these coins tied to their hand in lieu of a "gold" engagement ring.
Up until about the 1940's, there was a tradition in the rural villages of Shanxi Province where stylish young men liked to carry a lohan coin between their teeth. This was an attempt to mimic the tradition of stylish young men in the cities who liked to show off a gold tooth.
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Grosetto 1660 from the Republic of Ragusa (modern day Dubrovnik)
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1660

Netherlands
Counter token
(Gelderland; Zutphen)
PHIL.IIII.D.G.HISP.ET.INDIAR.REX.
Philippus IIII Dei gratia Hispaniarum et Indiarum rex
Philips IIII, by gods grace, king of Spain and India
CEDANT CONCORDIBUS IGNIBUS ARMA
united, fiery striding army
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1 liard
Liege
No date (1650-1688)
MAX. HEN. D. G. ARC. COL. (or variant).
Maximilianus Henricus dei gratia archiepiscopus Coloniae.
Maximilian Heinrich, by the grace of Gods, archbishop of Cologne
.EP. / .ET. PRIN. LEO. DVX. BVL (of variant).
episcopus et princeps Leodiensis dux Bulloniensis.
princebishop of Liege, Duke of Bouillon.
KM# 73
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1660 Netherlands Silver Ducaton (60 Stuiver), West Friesland.
Unfortunately, I don't know the shipwreck it was salvaged from.

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Revalued 4 Maravedis 1659 from Philip IV of Spain
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AE Fals AH(10)68 from 'Abdallah Qutb Shah, Qutb Shahis of Golconda

AH1068 started on 09/10/1657 and lasted till 27/09/1658, so more than 3/4 of that 'lunar' year fell into 1658.

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1657 French liard

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