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How Far Back Can We Go? Second Edition! Ended At 1492 Waiting On 1491

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 Posted 08/04/2015  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice and a nice design!
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 Posted 08/05/2015  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add qxy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1576 leeuwendaalder / lion daalder from the Dutch province of Holland, Dordrecht mint. These were hand made and typically exhibit areas of weak detail. This example is notable for a better obverse strike, particularly with the Knight's face.

A very nice leeuwendaalder, especially considering it's a shipwreck coin!
The weak strike they tend to have is not so much the result of being handmade (pretty much all Dutch coins up to the 1750's were handmade), but because this was trade coinage. Leeuwendaalders didn't really circulate in the Netherlands itself, they were purely for business. So the only thing that matters was that the weight and silver content were approximately right, the looks didn't matter that much.

Having said that, they have been struck in such high numbers that they are pretty cheap to acquire, even with a nice strike. I have noticed though that on American auctions you often see very weak strikes (coins that I don't consider good enough to collect) with pretty high gradings, whereas on Dutch auctions you find them more often with nice strikes. When you get a coin like that slabbed, all that matters is the wear. You can have very little wear and a weak strike, and get a high grade. However in the Netherlands not many people collect coins in slabs, they seem to care more about a nice strike than wear. Result? Weak strikes without wear end up in slabs and go to the US, nice strikes with wear stay in the Netherlands. (My theory: I'm open for other explanations)
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 Posted 08/05/2015  05:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DKA-Numis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful Leeuwendaalder!!
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 Posted 08/05/2015  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DKA-Numis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1575 Sixpence
Elizabeth I
England

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I just received a 1574 about a month ago, so I can help there tomorrow!
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 Posted 08/05/2015  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^ That post above just reminded me I have one of those.

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 Posted 08/05/2015  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgenn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the comments on the leeuwendaalder. And thanks qxy for the insight on their strike quality in Dutch auctions. Your opinion on trade issues seems right on the mark as the ducatoons and ducats that were struck in the same time appear to be of consistently higher caliber.
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 Posted 08/06/2015  07:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1574 H-S Hungarian Denar,King Maximilian II. The H-S mint mark is scarcer than the K-B.

My next one is 1570.

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 Posted 08/07/2015  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1574?
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 Posted 08/07/2015  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We're about 20 years from where I would have a run down to 1503.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EddieDiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually,17 years to the run. I have 1570,68,67,65,64,62,59,and 57-03.
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 Posted 08/10/2015  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No contributions over the weekend.

1573 - where are you?

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