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I recently bought this coin on ebay.. I had suspicions from the onset but being a die hard for halfs I took a chance,..Well it took less than 10 seconds once I got it to see it... I wont say who the seller is because he offered refund and mainly sells ICCS coins, but did admit he bought it along with a 1931 from a flea market... Anyhow here are the pics.... The weight is 1 full gram off the norm.....The denticles at the 12:00 o'clock position on both sides fade away into the rim...The leafs are not completely formed and the 1 in the date is wrong......Ok this is what I have found... SO what else do you see ..oh and the dark color is an added feature as you can still see the toning residue... Also if you notice the central A in Canada it is faded much more than it should be..    |
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Other than the weight none of the indicators you mention seem out of the ordinary.
To me it looks like a real coin that has suffered environmental damage,maybe an MD find.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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11/13/2013 12:54 pm
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Just for more info to put out here...and now that you've held it.......
Was this a silver coin,... and how much did it actually go for?
Should this scare everyone away from buying raw and rare coins now..?
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Dev... another reason I was weary but chanced it was all the sellers other coins were ICCS with the exception of this 1932 and a 1931 with same type of toning... As I said weight wise its a full gram off the scale that alone to me is a bad sign... Along with the fake toning and the other issues... + the selling price was 232.00 ? A coin like this should have easily went for 500 + considering a conservative grade of VF 30 but most would say EF 40 for sure.....
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11/13/2013 2:19 pm
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The fact that the seller sold mostly ICCS graded coins, yet this one was NOT ICCS graded, should have been a major red flag, telling you something is defintely wrong with this coin, either it's a fake ot it's real but with surface problems.
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Double....Im still wondering why no one thinks being off a full gram would not be a weird thing ? The true weight should be 11.6 give or take a very slight .00 ? but not 1 full gr + the fake toning.. As I said I had doubts but until having it in hand the pics were at best ? This is why I bought it... If it would have been real( which I doubted ) It would have been a great type set piece for the book... The seller will refund but asked me to return via regular post..We all know that is a NO NO when dealing with Paypal......
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For a type set piece, the 1932 would be the last date to choose (outside of the 1921 of course). And yes, mailing it back via regular mail would be a No-No if you suspect a seller may say that it was never returned.
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Hi to you Mr artdio, I do not sure think that this might be faker, as I have look at it close and with the other pcture it look to me that it is same, and I have look at many coins like this one that has been damage by some little bit of corosions and get tone like that. And also, it look that the strike it might be little bit soft around that Canada A... But maybe you should checked your scale too? Here is one that looks like exact the same 1 number and 9.  |
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carpman, not that I suspect the seller would try that but having been stung before I learned the hard way... Now why would you say the 32 would be the last date to choose ? oH and welcome to the forum
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Salut Gilles, in this case my scale is 100% accurate..I weigh coins everyday. Been collector for 35 years ..Now the tone is not the same..In hand the coin I have is clearly 100 % added...You can see the oils still in the devices , so who ever done it did not wipe it or rinse it enough to remove the excess...
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Absolutely fake. The most obvious should be the shape of the numbers in the date and the lettering. Denticles are bad, grainy surfaces, general lack of detail. Llook at the leaf on the reverse in the closeup picture, it "fades" away into nothingness.
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Pokerman, thats why I put the pics to show others ..If there is one then I'm sure there will be others..I hope we can spot them before they get sold.... I sent some great pics to MM in case its a new one....
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Llook at the leaf on the reverse in the closeup picture, it "fades" away into nothingness. Look at the seller's pics, leaves are more defined, denticles much clearer etc. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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DBM, are you saying the sellers pics show a different coin ? because I have them on ebay and this is the exact coin I bought from him |
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nickelsguy , thanks for the confirmation..Thats exactly what I thought.....
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